Guys,

I've heard stories of people K-closing without saying a word to the girl.
Now, how does this work?

You could use non verbal "routines" to a point (??) but what matters here surely is that you have 100% that you can escalate to closeure?

This would apply in dance floor or gaming abroad.

In fact, if you get this right, anything you say (openers/routines) will still work if you have your non-verbal game tight.

Thoughts? How would you guys do this?

Wanna be there when you do live demo. Jaz man, don't you think that physical appearance, mainly looks has got a lot to do with how successful you are on this...!

Don't even think like that. Physical appearance/attributes has nothing to do with game (even silent game). Unless you're really bad at hygiene.

Of course it's based on attraction!! - you can be attractive without being classically good looking..

This is a very important concept for noobies. Whether you're big, small, 2 heads, etc..if you generate value/attraction, you're gonna get laid

Hang on! So what you are saying then if we just go out, have a good time, have fun then we WILL get laid. Meaning all the inner game, outer game, body language, tonality, openers, natural, silent game etc etc etc are pointless. And we should never bother with a forum like this in the first place...! Totally disagree although Im just trying to understand where you coming from matey!

Much Success!

Truly Marc Truly !

It matters alot more that your clean , smell nice , and are well presented with good personal hygene . Women are alot more interested in the fact that you have pride in your appearance and take care of yourself .

My opinion: I don't agree with this. For me, it is important to critically reflect on my actions. I want to improve, not keep doing the same thing. Of course people do things differently, and I don't agree with everyone on this forum (or others). I’m not gonna argue continually about the ‘right’ thing to do. But I appreciate that people on here can help each other out, including me.

My point was not as narrow as

"can you kiss a girl without talking?"

I'm basically saying - you could go into any country, where they don't know English and if your game is tight enough get any woman you like. So I'm saying your looks or the words you say don't matter - it's your overall behaviour (microbehaviours) that causes attraction, hence get results.

It's hard to learn these behaviours. In fact, I won't even bother to learn them, because I know that once my reality is shifted enough - these behaviours will come natural.

I've pulled before, K-closed before I even discovered game. All I need to do is to rediscover my sexworthy self. I'm using game to help me get onto that path (and more self discovery, which I will divulge in another post)

Wish me luck guys - and I wish you guys luck with this to.

Over and Out

I love seeing where people's opinion stem from, so dont apologise. It makes this forum fuckin interesting...! We all unique in our own way and have different opinion about things..!

Attraction and Good Looks - are we any different to how we see women than how women see us? We classify gorgeous, stunning girls as HB8-10, and we approach them and try to make us attractive to them. Do you think girls work in a different way to us? Do you think they would be attracted to a guy just by their hygiene and appearance and then make a point to have eye contact and with your suggestive gesture, comes over for a kiss? Im not too sure!