There's a thing called learning by your mistakes. Pushing your boundaries and getting out of your comfort zone are part of it. It is this behaviour that taught me the most about myself and the possibilies there are. This is not advice for people who are good with girls, this is for those who want to learn.

If there is something seriously wrong with the response you get from telling a girl what you really think of them for example, well, you need to assess just what is creating this negative reaction. Not ignorant, a more in depth way to deal with your issues.

A lot of guys on this forum is quite anti PU, just ignore them if you disagree with their posts.

If you need to use canned material to get you started, then do so, it won't hurt you at all. Just make sure you think things through with a critical mind before you do something.

/Loke

Thats actually how a feel about canned material,

The best thing about canned material is not the material itself, its the understanding why certain material has a positive effect. When you have this understanding, your part way to being able to see the social matrix, in other words good social intelligence.

I will point out am not actually in the game right now,am in a 6 month relationship, suppose to be moving in with her soon, which is great but i am missing my PUA adventures.

Cheers Tony.

If I had not met my room mate I would not have know about PUA. It is changing me for the better so I am very grateful to him. It is also very reassuring to know that I am not alone. That other shy guys out there has managed to get out there and get over what ever it was that was holding them back.

In my case having a experienced PUA with me and looking out for me realy is making all the difference. How did you get through it Tony? Where did you find what it was you needed to take that leap?

You've found a neiche I think, but I wouldn't rely on it 100%. But I think it's a good crutch to build your confidence in talking to people. One day you'll be able to do it with or without the drawing.

But by no means am I suggesting not to use it if it works.

Peacocking idea, maybe get a T shirt printed with some of your art work?!

I agree with the T shirt with a print of one of your more daring art work. Wear a blazer/suit jacket on top. You'll get opened over it, and you can then easily DHV yourself by telling the person you drew the image yourself ;)

Yes that is the idea. I have a much better understanding of what it is I need to do now. And I am working towards it. I do hope to leave the pad behind one day. Well leave it behind in the "I dont need it" scenes. Not the "I dont want to have it with me because I no longer enjoy it!" scense. It will always goes with me.

When I was in high school I had a green pad. No one other than my friends knew my name. But every one know that guy with the green pad that draws naked girls. Even the teachers approved. Except the bible teacher. But he was very much a fruit cake.

Yeah if you don't want to wear a t shirt I'll buy one off you :p

Nice one. Thank you for the complement. Actually it is not such a bad idea.

"Hey there baby. You see this. I made this. OOOO ya."

"Mommy why is that bad man wearing a naked women on his shirt. I am scared mommy." Said the girl who was passing by.

Then there will be the court case. Followed by jail time. Then I will finaly know true love when I meet Ba Ba my prison cell mate. Hes pringles can size penis will take me to places I never knew existed.

Sorry I could not resist poking a little fun. That is actually a good idea. I think I will have to make something meant for a T-shirt.

Who cares I'll have a naked t shirt no worries!

I'm just going to be selective about when I wear it. No children out in bars at 10pm at night ;)