Hi folks,

I recently put aside the reading material, picked only 2-3 openers (friend's girlfriend kiss, email read, and some direct), and just started to deploy them in field in day game.

My delivery feels now good, spontaneous, uncomplicated, and right BL, but I have a sticking point transitioning from there. I let the HBs answer, put some more on that, but then what? How to change topic, and to where? Should I neg, or stack another opener, or what?

It kinda sucks feeling to be stuck so early in the set

haz

so whats your name then...

cool, id ask what school your from but its clear you didnt go

what do u do thats fun??? coz im a pornstar in my spare time ... but what do u college, or uni or... r u borin

then let her tell u what she does.. hopefully u have somethin in common

Just say whatever comes into your head. I know that's probably not what you want to hear but it really is that simple. If it doesn't work?.....NEXT!

If your really struggling, make observations about her, tell her she's adorable or whatever but tease a little bit while keeping it playful.

If you communicate through your core or from a real place, then it will feel better when it is sucessful; as opposed to using routines (which can work) that will make you feel as if it's not really you. Basically, go for what you want without caring too much if you get it or not. Hope that helps dude.

Thanks all for replying. I expected to go RTFMed for how beginner this was :P

Phil: essentially you say bring it on fun + spicing with some negs. Thanks.

kowalski and ice: I know what you mean, but I don't believe in that anymore :P

So I took a PUAtraining in London 2 months back: they advocate natural, and that negs serve for leveling down HBs frequently hit on to your perceived level: they should not be used "free fire".

Sounds great, but in practice I don't build attraction with that alone

I guess there are other parts I can work on to build attraction:

• kino more and earlier on (doable but subtler in day game)
• interesting or teasing topic of conversation
• confident body language

If that is it, I find it hard to fit upon an indirect opener.

So I think I'll start trying to neg more. Comes totally unnatural to me coz I'm ever so friendly :P but I'm sure it's matter of internalizing a few examples and grow spontaneous stuff from there. So if you have some likely examples you're welcome to type me some

Btw, this is something I needed to work on. I had the tendency to respond to whatever she said with something from my side. Actually, letting her do most of the speaking is a qualifier and makes the connections field bigger and easier.

LSS, in its 5 lines this post is more dense than it'd seem

You've opened, that's fine.
If you can't lock in after that one opener then it might be a good idea to stack another one on top. Try and draw a conversation out of the topic and remember not to ask too many questions without grounding them and mixing in a few statements.

Other things I like to do is make an assumption about the set. My favourite thing to say when one girl is being really talkative and the other aren't is "You're totally the leader aren't you?" and then start involving the others in the inevitable power disputes that follow.

So...
Assumptions and stacking.

Then you should get the hook and be able to lock in at some point. This is where you can start to personalize it. I developed springboard principle based on some of Gambler's stuff. Essentially post-hook you can ask those boring questions like "What do you do?" "Where are you from?" Without losing their interest. But better is to use these questions to springboard onto the more interesting ones. For example:

"What do you do?"
"Oh I'm a teacher."
"That sounds really fulfilling. It must be great to spend so much time working with children." *Look nostalgic* "Do you remember your first day of school?"

The first question is quite dull, but after putting yourself in her shoes a little you get out the second question, which in my experience if done right can elicit some really deep values and get a great connection going. Good things to ask about are bests and firsts.

So...
Springboard Principle

The last thing I want to say is that these tools and techniques are just stabilizers to your cycling. You might need them now, but slowly they get integrated into your personality and you end up unconciously using them where appropriate, and letting yourself shine through them more effectively. However, I find that stabilizers help us ride til we can go without.

HOPE THAT HELPED!