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whitewind 14-10-2019 11:54 PM

How to seduce my math student
 
Hello community.

I also work as a private math tutor. I give private math lessons at my clients' place. There is a student that I feel she likes me. How do I seduce her?

More info: she is 18 years old, I teach her in the first floor of their house, in a dining room. There is no one else present in the room. I come to their place once a week. I am afraid of losing the client... e.g. telling her after the class : "I like you. Can I invite you to a cinema?" and her parents could cancel the classes...

Thank you for any useful ideas.

Greetings, whitewind

Alsido 15-10-2019 03:22 PM

You idiot.... first of all

If you seduce her, you 100% lose your client if you work in school or in any other teaching company/school I can bet by 95% you lose that job too and could be listed in schools as pervert .....

Think before you messing with students or clients... its lots of women in clubs, pubs, shops or even streets.....

whitewind 15-10-2019 06:29 PM

Thank you Alsido for your reply.

I am not an idiot. I do not work for any school/teaching agency. So if I lose one client I only lose 100 EUR pro month. That is all what is at stake here.

This target is super special - I live in the central Europe and I study German language, and my client is German. She can help me with the studies, if she would be my gf..

Stein 15-10-2019 10:29 PM

I worked as a maths tutor for quite a few years and did very very well doing it, and if you're genuinely entertaining the idea of doing this, you're dumb. For one thing, it's unprofessional. I tutored people at the uni level, mature students, the lot, and while I did a couple of times get the incling a student liked me, I viewed it as out of bounds.

Even if you think you don't risk anything other than losing a client, your priority should be to do your job like a professional. Fuck pragmatism and thinking cost?benefit for a moment and take a little pride in yourself.

You're there to provide a service, and you should think a bit more highly of your work than to jeopardise their learning because you want to fuck them. I'm not saying all social settings are out of bounds, but there are boundaries like any other job and you should take enough pride in yourself to not cross them.

Second of all, if this is something you're getting hung up on enough to sign up and ask for advice the correct thing to do, as always, is (sing it with me y'all)

Talk. To. More. Girls.

The main reason to be into game in my mind for just about everyone is to have enough options to make smart, beneficial choices about the girls you sleep with. So if you're considering doing some shit like this, you just plain need to talk to more girls. If you had enough options outside your work, you wouldn't even be asking this. Go out and do more game.

whitewind 16-10-2019 11:09 AM

While Mr. Alsido started to insult me by writing that I am an idiot, Mr. Stein does not understand the situation.

In my second post in this thread I wrote why I am interested in her: I study German language and my client is German. That is my dream: having a German girlfriend.

Why should I go to streets and approach women, or to clubs or in the library or anywhere else, if I have a German target, who is sending me all IOIs I know about?

There is nothing wrong with thinking about seducing my client, I still want to help her with mathematics in the future.

I have done lots of playing chicks in the past and being active in the local seduction community.

If you would meet the girl of your dreams, who reveals interest in you, would it be a problem, that she is your client?

Think outside of the box!

I thought that this forum is about sharing seduction advice, not for telling people why not game a particular girl..

Alsido 16-10-2019 11:48 AM

... just read what you just wrote! You said you live in central EU I assume its Germany so its more German women around you then you think. On other hand you sound super desperate... even you don't live in Germany you can get on Facebook and join local Germany communities and meet chicks there or dating app and target Germans only. You said by your self that you studding Germany ask your class mates to introduce to some German girls etc... there should be more of them .... not just one in town...

We give you advice not to do dump shit but its your choice

If you so sure about her, ask her out and you'll see whats happens its like 50/50 chance you dream girls tells you to fuck off and after all the shits unfolds from your end. On other had there is some women better not to touch and leave them be as they are... in case you looking for problems.

whitewind 16-10-2019 12:09 PM

Hello Alsido, thank you for your post. I don't live in Germany, I only study German language.

kowalski 16-10-2019 12:27 PM

Pathetic virgin liar.


Peace,
kowalski

whitewind 16-10-2019 12:47 PM

Another insult, do you normally insult other people on this forum? That is not polite.

kowalski 16-10-2019 12:54 PM

You can feel insulted by an accurate description if you like, it changes nothing... except we can now confidently add 'pussy' to our accurate description of you.

It's Wednesday. Are you insulted by that too?


Peace,

kowalski

Stein 16-10-2019 05:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitewind (Post 125655)
Mr. Stein does not understand the situation.

In my second post in this thread I wrote why I am interested in her: I study German language and my client is German. That is my dream: having a German girlfriend.

No, I did understand that. Like Asildo told you, there's plenty of other ways to meet German women, even outside of Germany. When I was in London I was into Russian and Scandinavian girls (go figure), and managed that just fine without trying to fuck any students. Hell I've had stints with German girls myself without that ever being an aim. Student/tourist-heavy bars, international meetups, it's not rocket science

Quote:

Why should I go to streets and approach women, or to clubs or in the library or anywhere else, if I have a German target, who is sending me all IOIs I know about?

There is nothing wrong with thinking about seducing my client, I still want to help her with mathematics in the future.
Also told you this. You should have better professional standards than to do it. You might still want to help her with mathematics in the future, but if you hit on her and she's not into it, she won't. Also, don't make too much of IOIs, easy to misread.

Quote:

I have done lots of playing chicks in the past and being active in the local seduction community.
Not gonna phrase it like kowalski, but I don't think you've had much success. Like I said, the fact you'd entertain this and also the approach you suggested kind of point to that. There would be a better way to do this than "telling her after the class : "I like you. Can I invite you to a cinema?". I mean, this would be a bad idea regardless, but just from a nuts and bolts perspective that's not how people with game would handle it.

Quote:

If you would meet the girl of your dreams, who reveals interest in you, would it be a problem, that she is your client?

Think outside of the box!
I don't think in those terms because I'm not Ted Mosby. And yes it still would.


Quote:

I thought that this forum is about sharing seduction advice, not for telling people why not game a particular girl..
It's both. The seduction advice is go seduce someone else. You have suggestions on how to do that too.

Harshness aside we're trying to give you the best advice we can base on experience. If you ask us how to execute a bad idea correctly, we shouldn't tell you how to do it. We should tell you it's a bad idea.

So there's the advice. Take it. Leave it. No point bitching about it.

whitewind 16-10-2019 08:48 PM

Thank you Stein for your post.

When I was in the seduction community, I had done about 800 approaches, mostly in the streets and in the shopping malls. I had a decent experience of number closing, getting a date. At the end I found an LTR and I left the community.

With this German HB - she actually tried to seduce me the last time I was there, but I didn't get it. I was in my "teaching mathematics mode". I remember her exact words, and next time I will see her I plan to get her to that same thought pattern she had the previous time and respond to it differently...

I have been teaching math for 18 years and I never made any move on my female clients. I have never even considered it for a second.

But now I study German, she is German, she is single, she is interested, she sends me IOIs. Last time she tried what she tried on me. Maybe next time she will give it up, maybe she will do the same, maybe she will do something else. Who knows. But if she will have the intention to go upstairs to her room and have instant full close.. do I have to ignore that because I am a professional math teacher?

I am aware that the "I like you. Can I invite you to a cinema?" is a very AFC game. You are right about that. But AFCs also have girlfriends, wifes..

@Mr. kowalski: Could you please do me a favor and stop posting in this thread? I would really appreciate it. Thank you.

kowalski 16-10-2019 09:16 PM

So, why were you insulted when your description of yourself is identical to my description of you?


Peace,

kowalski

Stein 16-10-2019 09:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by whitewind (Post 125663)
I have been teaching math for 18 years and I never made any move on my female clients. I have never even considered it for a second.

Hold up. Everything on hold for a sec. How old are you?

whitewind 16-10-2019 09:52 PM

I am 33 years old.

Alsido 17-10-2019 08:49 AM

It's so wrong in so many ways. It's kind of Sun newspaper story unfolding in front of us :D

Now it's sounds like she just playing you to for fill her own fantasy. 33 year old guy seduces 18 year math student. yeah try to explain that to her parents ...

I'm sure it's one night stand might be 2 night .... how big is the city you live in?

just to be clear you wanna date her not just fuck once? right.

whitewind 17-10-2019 08:56 AM

Hello Alsido,

In my city there is 1.2 million people.

I don't support ONS, only LTR.

I can say that her mother likes me, last time we had a nice chat at the end.

Greetings, whitewind

Alsido 17-10-2019 09:27 AM

I'm off from this tread. Personally I don't see how this gonna happen. Parents likes you until something happens.

Actually BBC panorama was about this shit day gamers in they 35th hitting on 18 girls... you might wanna watch it

Stein 17-10-2019 12:19 PM

Yeah, this is mad weird. I was assuming you'd be like 22 or something, you should seriously not be hitting on an 18 year old student at 33. Like seriously, check yourself and try dating people closer to your age.

Not much else to be said at this point tbh.

whitewind 18-10-2019 04:03 PM

Hello.

My mother died two years ago. My father, who was 64 at that time, was about five months alone and then he found one lady, who was 31 years old at that time. Today they are married and they have an one year old son, my half brother. When they got married, there was a 33 years difference between them.

I don't know if there is a difference between our (mine and yours) religion, nationalities, social status, intelligence, education or I don't know what else, but I don't consider 15 years of age difference a problem. I want to have children in the future, so I am not interested in women 38+, but if a girl is an adult, and 15 years younger, I don't view it as a problem.

I am not asking for any seduction advice from you any more, if you don't want to share any, I respect that. I am an experienced PUA and I have my own game plan for what I am going to do. I have read online what the dating is like in Germany and I have also read some articles on Quora.

I will not be hitting on her, I will just see if she still has the same intention she had the previous time.

What I wrote before is true: "I have been teaching math for 18 years and I have never made any move on any of my female clients.", but they have made a move on me: one American lady started to kino me during one lesson, one Russian lady also tried something on me, and there were also three female clients from my country, who - I felt like they liked me too (but in these three cases I am not so sure, because they didn't do any kino to me). And in all these five cases I was ignoring them, just teaching them mathematics.

I am aware that this is a British forum, so maybe people in the UK are more conservative, like: "seducing your math client is a bad idea" or also the "15 years of age difference is too much". I am from the Central Europe, and people here are open minded.

Have a nice weekend,

whitewind

kowalski 18-10-2019 04:11 PM

Your an absolute moron and youíre not our responsibility.


Peace,

kowalski

whitewind 18-10-2019 05:14 PM

In this thread Dan has also a target that is 14 years younger, and he also does not consider it a problem:

https://www.puaforums.co.uk/field-re...tml#post125678

@kowalski: for the second time: Could you please stop posting in this thread? I would really appreciate it. Thank you.

Stein 18-10-2019 07:36 PM

Lol k bro, sounds like you've got this all under control.

Oh, and do post results.

whitewind 18-10-2019 08:34 PM

Thank you Stein.

I have one more story to share. Do you know who married Wolfgang Amadeus Mozart? He was teaching one lady music, how to sing etc. At one point he decided that he likes her and he asked her: "Would you like to marry me?". She was thinking about it for some time. After few days she told him "No.", but she introduced him to her sister. Mozart later married the sister of his music student.

That reminds me, one day I was playing one chick in a bar, we were talking for 15 minutes, I could feel a certain attraction from her. At one point I looked into her eyes and I said: "I like you. (pause), I think that you are really sexy. (pause) and I want to fuck you today.", then there was like 3 seconds silence, then she came closer to me, and started a make out. And then we went to my place for a full close, and she had no LMR. But that is a different story...

Instead of my sexual direct "I want to fuck you today." I will one day try also the Mozart routine "Would you like to marry me?"..

I will let you know how it went with the German target.

whitewind

Stein 18-10-2019 09:52 PM

.....smh

maay not have thought that last one through

Shahanshah 19-10-2019 01:33 PM

Start off making comments about dating. And the her dating life. Then the odd tease and compliment (push pull). Then as she's writing maybe from behind lean over her and write for her.

Maybe suggest a late night tutorial and have some drink (cocaine if she implies she does it) and get her smashed and go for it.

whitewind 22-10-2019 07:44 PM

Hello community.

Thank you Shahanshah, I don't plan to make her drunk..

You would have to wait for the final report until mid November, because there is now an autumn holiday and my target is in Germany..

Happy gaming, whitewind

whitewind 14-11-2019 10:02 AM

Hello community,

I saw her this week. I could not do anything, because her mother was around the whole time.

But she (my target) kicked me with her foot below the table. How much more obvious can it get?

whitewind

Catboy 16-01-2020 11:09 PM

Don't listen to them. You have a lot of chances.

You just need to insinuate. Start sending kisses, blinking an eye, licking your lips, rubbing your nipples, ect.
Then you tell her things like "I want to seduce you..." "I. Your Latin lover" and then you pull your dick out and land it on the table.

Believe me, instant success.

VibeSpreader 16-01-2020 11:38 PM

I read every post in this thread and think I pulled more facial expressions than I did in a whole 2.5 hour date this evening.

It had biting to trolling, a parent death, a mozart annacdote, cocaine as real advice, a leg kick IOI, and finished with a dick on the table.


5*s

nothing 17-01-2020 12:40 PM

you could try to be a smooth operator and send her IOI as well, like make eye contact for one second longer, kick her under the table, say sorry then kick her again, rub her upper arm in a friendly manner when you go, you know, things that are congruent with your serious interest in her, not too playful and flirty like you're an amateur PUA just looking for punani, know what I mean? Make her dream about you day and night.

And the escalation should come from her imho, i mean she should be the one to ask you on a date or come closer to you. This is to protect your professionalism.

kowalski 27-01-2020 05:07 PM

You are blind to nuance.


Peace,

kowalski

kowalski 27-01-2020 05:47 PM

You fail to see the nuances of the differences between the various positions or activities and that leads to your all the frustration you are experiencing in thesethreads

You are blind to nuance.


Peace,

kowalski

kowalski 27-01-2020 07:08 PM

Iím not those people. Thatís hardly a fucking nuance, thatís a huge an important factor. Yet you keep talking like anyoneís words who disagrees with you is everyoneís words who disagrees with you.


Peace,

kowalski

Stein 28-01-2020 09:11 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by first person approacher (Post 126671)
Just dipped into this thread. The whole point of game is "younger, hotter, tighter". Read "Rollo Tomassi, Rational Male".

I am 30 and only just started female interaction activities. You are telling me I should stick to women 30+ who have had X amount of sexual partners and previous relationships!?

18+ is easily fair game. What's the difference betweeen a 30+ year old cock inside her body and an 18 year old one?

I know you've basically been let back on here as a lolcow we can bat back and forth like when killer whales playing tennis with a dead seal, and given this was directed at me, and given how irritatingly gross it is, guess I'll respond.

I'm aware of Rollo Tomassi, and I think he's stupid, posturing manosphere red pill trash. I've got much more worthwhile stuff to read. Interestingly enough though, the only other guy on here to ever recommend that book was a guy called MikeH0ck, another incel who got his jollies from jerking off to autopsies. Good intellectual company you keep.

You talk about women like pieces of meat. No wonder none of them have a thing to do with you. Game at its best is about developing the social skills to relate to the people you're attracted to romantically and sexually in a healthy, exciting and mutually beneficial way. That means different things to different people. But the idea that the point of game is "younger, hotter, tighter", makes me want to fucking wretch from its sheer reductionist misogyny. Not to mention the fact that you make your madonna whore complex that's implicit in all these conversations explicit in the above. You are an avatar of so much wrong with this whole community.

Stein 28-01-2020 10:51 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by first person approacher (Post 126694)
I still don't understand. Who does more to harm women?

Me? A lifelong lonely incel who missed out on everything? Or the guy having sex with young women at the nightclub?

The fucks wrong with having sex with girls you meet in nightclubs? Absolutely nothing. Unless maybe if you're actually doing it in the nightclub. Hygiene, people.

Your values, on the other hand, are gross, and you are potentially very harmful. You're just too socially dumb to be effectual.

Quote:

Originally Posted by first person approacher (Post 126694)
By the way, "younger, hotter, tighter" I think came from a book called "The Game". I agree, it sounds perverse, but for some reason only when I use the phrase it gets pointed out.

Was pretty sure this was bullshit, but just to check I searched a pdf of the game just now for even a fragment of that phrase and it appears nowhere. Even if it was all the way through, it would just mean Neil Strauss was trash too.

Quote:

Originally Posted by first person approacher (Post 126694)
Edit: Do you think I don't feel sad that I can't relate to a beautiful, young woman? Do you think I even want to be like this!? But I don't understand what the problem even is.

You don't seem to relate to anyone. You literally haven't even understood why you were kicked out here in the first place despite being directly told more than once. But you don't seem to actually want to do anything about it - you just want to bitch.You refused to take advice when given and you have this sad conspiratorial victim mentality - as if it's feminists keeping you down instead of your creep trash-ass game, or as if it's CatBoy's fault you got kicked off instead of your own childish and obnoxious behavior.

If you want to improve, go get therapy. Like it or not that's the level you're at. If you don't want to take any measures to work on your issues and instead just want to spam here with your bullshit I'll treat that with the contempt it deserves.

Shahanshah 29-01-2020 10:46 PM

Hey first person approacher you ignored my private message. You been threatening to beat up my friend. Come meet me so I can crack your fucking skull open.

Hey everyone, this guy has been physically threatening people in private messages but when he gets called out, he pussies out, just like he does with women. He started 'female interaction' at 30 years old 😂😂😂😂😂😂 what a fucking loser, a little bitch.

Autism level 9000. Anyone seen his YouTube videos too? It's like a fucking school shooter filming himself. Only at least school shooters have the balls to put their will into action.

dan300 29-01-2020 10:57 PM

Watched one of them and even though I watched it twice it originally took less than a minute to establish that this person has screws loose

Stein 29-01-2020 11:49 PM

I'm just waiting for the one where he gets stopped by the police. That'll be some spicy spicy cringe right there

kowalski 30-01-2020 07:41 PM

Lol @dwarfboyShah. You doing exactly what you claim to hate the other kid for.

#booktheflight


Peace,

kowalsk


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