Do you ever feel like this....

You start talking to a girl, and they instantly know your trying to game them, because that is the only reason your talking to them.
That every time you speak to a female, they think your trying to hit on them, you only want one thing and that is the only reason your talking to them. Maybe its my mental disability why i think too much, and about silly things, but i want to know how to counter this kind of thinking, because i can always tell when a guy is gaming a girl,its obvious to me,and when a guy likes a girl or a girl likes a guy...i think girls can also see when it is going on, it has become so blaitent to me, i dont like to do it, because i know it so blaitent and they must know whats going on, i get all self aware or somthing i dont know....Im really confused at the moment... Can anyone help me out here, or do i just sound like a mad man? lol

bmb,

I'm pretty new round here, but I'm gonna give you my opinion anyway.

Are you mad? nah just kidding. Yes everyone knows when a guy is hitting on a woman but how many guys stand there and watch with envy and wish they had the balls to have spoken to her first. Unless you feel that you are gaming a girl for the wrong reason or could it be that you feel self conscious being that guy, maybe this is something you need to think about. why not approach girls just to talk to them without any hidden agenda I think from what I have learnt so far is that if it is natural it will go un-noticed but whatever the fact who really cares what others think, its all about us getting what we want outta life. hope this make sense atleast and maybe even helps.

I wouldn't worry too much if they think you are hitting on them or not, at the end of the day, girls want to meet guys and thats a big reason why they dress up so pretty and go to bars and clubs. You aren't doing anything wrong by talking to them, some will be flattered, some will put up bitch shields but as a PUA its your job to get round it!

So what if they know you're trying to pull them? If they don't realise it at some point, you're not gonna be able to close them, except maybe a number close when you've made it to the friend zone.

As whistleblower says, you're not doing anything wrong. It's their own fault for spending so much time making themselves look good. Women love attention.

Gotta agree with Kowalski. Only like to add one thing, it works two ways. They have to impress you too. They do not have all the power in the dynamic.

Rock n roll

I remember talking to a random guy while out blackdog having a cig once. And the topic got turned to game, He was saying what he does to try and talk to girls he'd normally be too afraid to approach but when he was actually talking to girls he'd ask all about their opinions and what they were into or at worst a cheesy chat up line he knew (I wont repeat it)


I went into a whole rant about it doesn’t matter what they think. There is no need to hide your intentions. Stop being deceptive and be honest about why the fuck your talking to them and what you expect. In my experience to go up to a girl and immedietly tell her Im into her and they way I want things to go has a lot more real success than spending 20 minutes asking pointless queshtions.
It blew his mind that you could actually do that. It probably never crossed his mind he could even do that with a girl.