There are a few members in the forum who have at some point realised that the BIG BREAKDOWNS & EXPLAINATIONS are all shit... it can never be that clear cut and at some point after just goin out an doin it... u will realise too.

So this must have happened to mystery, style etc... so at some point, they realised that all that other stuff is crap... and continued to create new bits every year regardless....

Or do they still beleive everything they say????

NO FUCKIN WAY... at some point they all sold out.... coz at some point they became natural, and naturals dont think like that

Oh yeah... it all makes sence now....

What about variables... or does the equation apply across each stage of attraction???

It is called evolving Phil. Why does it have to be shit or crap or fake? Yes, I know a lot of guys in the early days of the forum used canned openers but I doubt they will say that it was all crap and shit....!

its nothin to do with canned openers... thats defo NOT the issue... the issue is a diagram kowalski should put up on here shortly

Attraction stage 123 IOI callibration DLV Callibration against IOI comfort stage 1 2 3 4 5 6 ....a billion

Phases... leaning in leaning out shakin it all about... there is so much stuff that i think it causes people to think

I MUST LEARN MORE IM NOT READY instead of just goin an tryin it

Just a matter of time before people realise it, I started going out and trying things as I was reading pua books, opening up lots of people every day, now I feel much better about myself, I dont need and of that canned shit because its now just natural to me. So I wouldnt say PUA is fake, I would say its a good thing for a person to try so they can get their confidence up so these things just become natural

I used to work in a health food store that sold homeopathic medicine.
I was proper against it, studying science, I knew that stuff was just a rip off and was fake.

This guy came in the shop one day, proper distressed. He was having problems with anxiety. He was on severe medication so I couldn't suggest the anxiety medicine we did have that was backed by scientific study so I suggested the homeopathic stuff. He left, happy and still comes in the shop.

It might be fake, but it helped the guy.

Just because it's fake doesn't mean it's useless.

It's not a science, because it's impossible to reach perfection like you can with maths or physics or anything.

Pick up is an art, it's why we call them pick up artists.
That means it's non-precise, and fluid. But just like people can be taught to draw you can be taught to pick up by using a set of key techniques.

Ye i did mention this in a post, but my discussion is with the OVERBEARING info.. and anyway unlike most i got into pua a little different... picking up women was my hobby b4 i even heard of neil straus... bang into NLP

then a friend came in laffing one day and said I HAVE UR NEW PLAYTHING

twas PUA... and i made it my own... TO GREAT SUCCESS MAY I ADD... i genuinly beleive i could make sum absolute blinding PUA's but people are too busy with the books

Do we really know wether Pua tricks work or not though? I know I get results using things like Kino escalation, push/pull, negging etc in my encounters, maybe I would get them regardless and maybe just cause I think they work, i get in a state they do work. Who knows....but I don't think it's possible to prove either way since it's such a non exact science.

Is nobody getting the point... the above does work... its all the micro analysations that are the issue