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Default pretty disenchanted - 01-08-2010, 11:05 PM

So I fucked a random stripper, as per my recent field report.

I thought I would feel validated, and that it would actually help my overall confidence and game. It is only my second full close in six months since I started learning about the game.

Instead, I feel awful. I wish I hadnt done it. This girl is not bad looking. She is relatively pleasant, and we even have quite a few commonalities. All the same, she is not girlfriend material, and even though we had sex, it was emotionless on both our parts. I felt disconnected. I then felt utterly ashamed, and actually pretty violated afterwards. We both sort of used each other, and that completely did not do it for me.

Worst thing is, I was unprotected. I was drunk, which is a shit excuse. This girl is not an angel, and has had many (also unprotected) sexual partners. I have been pretty fucked up with STD anxiety since then. God knows what passengers I've picked up on my dick! The odds of me picking up something treatable and overall harmless are about 1 in 20, and the odds of me piking up something like HIV are about 1 in 1000, but I still can't help but worry. I will definitely get myself tested, and I will *NEVER* have unprotected sex with a girl I don't know is clean ever again; it just isnt worth the worry.

I wanted to learn the game so that I could pick up quality women with whom to share a sexual and emotional connection with. Instead, the only girls this stuff seems to work on are sluts who live in bars, pubs and clubs. Nice girls are still as unattainable as ever, and all seem to be dating the sort of AFC that I was before I discovered the game. They seem to choose them arbitrarily, based on a set of circumstances that don't seem to have a pattern to me. Yet these are the sort of girls I want.

Fuck it! What am I doing wrong? Am I learning game tailored for picking up one-night-stands in clubs when I should really be learning about deeper social dynamics? Just what *AM* I doing (or thinking) wrong that is leading me to developing these nasty side affects from otherwise seemingly normal gaming activity?
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Default 01-08-2010, 11:21 PM

If its only your second F-close in 6 months, I would not say you have a 'tailored game for picking up one-night stands in clubs'.

Calm down, approach quality girls and filter out women who you don't feel are up to standard. No one is forcing you to have sex with women you deem not girlfriend material. Its called self control and patience (although I'd fuck the hot strippers and carry on searching).

Cheer up

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Default 02-08-2010, 12:37 AM

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I wanted to learn the game so that I could pick up quality women with whom to share a sexual and emotional connection with. Instead, the only girls this stuff seems to work on are sluts who live in bars, pubs and clubs.
What stuff? Do you mean routines and canned material or direct material? I think you need to be more specific what 'this stuff is' so people can then see where there might be a problem

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Nice girls are still as unattainable as ever, and all seem to be dating the sort of AFC that I was before I discovered the game. They seem to choose them arbitrarily, based on a set of circumstances that don't seem to have a pattern to me. Yet these are the sort of girls I want.
Again dude, why are these girls unnatainable? What is happening when you approach these girls? What settings are you meeting them in and what material are you using?

Oh and bro i seriously doubt that the girls are choosing AFC's. Just because someone doesnt know about PU doesnt automatically make them a chode/AFC whatever the fuck you wanna call it. There are some very very cool people out there who havent got a clue about 'the game'. AFC behaviour for me is neediness, consistantly seeking validation and supplication to name but a few. Just because someone knows about game, it doesnt automatically excuse them from exhibiting these traits either subconciously or otherwise. All PU doesn is make you aware that traits such as these are unnatractive and should be avoided.

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Fuck it! What am I doing wrong? Am I learning game tailored for picking up one-night-stands in clubs when I should really be learning about deeper social dynamics? Just what *AM* I doing (or thinking) wrong that is leading me to developing these nasty side affects from otherwise seemingly normal gaming activity?
Maybe you should focus more on yourself. Do things that make you happy. Last night as i was about to go out a friend rang me and asked if i would train with him in the morning. I love training but cant do it with a hangover so i asked myself which id prefer and the answer at that time was training. So thats exactly what i did. There maybe other nights when going out is my answer but my point is i did exactly WHAT I WANTED TO DO. When you listen to yourself and do what you want its really easy to like yourself and when you like yourself its so so so easy for others to like you to.
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Default 02-08-2010, 07:53 AM

Dude id be more than happy to have emotionless sex with a stripper, but I see your point,
Like felix said, if you have a problem with fucking strangers, don’t do it man,
From the results you have gained over the last 2 months, you have proved to yourself that the game works, your just coming to the wrong conclusion.

I think that any positive outcome from your assessment of the whole “fucking a stripper” is being overridden by the fear of having caught an STD, your feelings of regret and uncertainty is preventing you from extracting any good related emotions from the whole situation.

If this isn’t the case, then set your self boundaries. From now on maybe you should meet girls, lots of girls, enjoy socialising after all we are a social species and being accepted helps fuel good emotions. But instead of emotionless sex with random girls, wait……get to know the girl before you fuck her brains out. If you manage to collect a handful of numbers and female contacts, you have an opportunity to discover whom you connect with and whom you’re most compatible with.

The best advice I can give is to go and get checked out as soon as possible, When you find out your in the clear, revaluate the whole scenario, see if your feelings have changed.


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Default 02-08-2010, 11:46 AM

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I wanted to learn the game so that I could pick up quality women with whom to share a sexual and emotional connection with. Instead, the only girls this stuff seems to work on are sluts who live in bars, pubs and clubs. Nice girls are still as unattainable as ever
Fear not, dear Whacksmith, I used to share the exact same feelings (and to an extent still do). It is certainly true that the slutty, easy girls react best to this stuff, and thus they're more likely to fuck you than the nice girls. Why this should be can be explained by some simple social dynamics.

If we take the truism that most (if not all) women enjoy and want sex even more than men do, we can assume that most of them - the sluts, the nice girls - want to jump on your cock. As you rightly say, most of the nice girls have boyfriends and the sluts tend to be single. Why is this? Two words - social conditioning.

Social conditioning states that a girl should not be a slut. There is nothing less attractive than a girl who sleeps around, goes for what she wants and fulfills her sexual needs. Rather, she should have a long-term boyfriend who is marriage material. Thus, you have 2 broad types of girl - those who don't give a fuck about social conditioning and those that do. Sluts and nice girls (obviously it's not as black and white as this, but you see my point).

Sluts are stronger, more confident and more alpha-male-like women who don't give a fuck what people think of them, and as such are unafraid of the social implications of sleeping with a guy they've just met. Nice girls, on the other hand, are ruled by social conditioning - frightened to death that they might be perceived as a slag, they will oftentimes dive into bed with a long-term boyfriend. An AFC? Possibly, but as has been said before, there are plenty of adequately confident and attractive guys out there who just happened to be in the right place at the right time, five years ago.

You might infer from my explanation that you're only ever going to sleep with slutty women, and nice girls (even single ones) will continue to be elusive. I did too, but I thought about some things mentioned in the Blueprint about dominant realities. As Tyler says, people don't know what they want, or rather they think they do until a person with stronger beliefs/a stronger reality comes along. At this point, they will drop their weaker beliefs to try and earn the approval of the person with stronger beliefs by adopting theirs.

In other words, if you believe strongly enough that it is more than acceptable (and indeed possible) for a nice girl to come home with you that night without being a slut, guess what? She will believe it as well. Sluts, on the other hand, are just more easy to persuade. It doesn't take a particularly strong belief in "this girl is coming home with me" to get a slut home. As such, I believe that this where practice comes in. Practice strengthens your reality (amongst other things), eventually to a point where it is even stronger than the global machine that is social conditioning. Thus, as time goes by, the girls you take home or even sleep with in general become less slutty and more nice. I, for instance, have been at this game for just over a year now, and am transitioning from the more slutty types to the types who just aren't afraid to sleep with a guy they find attractive, but without sleeping around. Perhaps in another year I'll be sleeping with some nice girls. The point is, this trend has been matched with a very gradual change in core beliefs and confidence. Not something I'm consciously doing, but gradually happening as a result of involvement in the community.

So if you're looking for a quick fix, and simple solution to your desire for more sex, I'm afraid it's sluts for you for the forseeable future. The way around this is, like you said, to want something more than a one-night stand or even fuck buddy relationship - a proper connection and sexual relationship with a cool person. A single nice girl (good luck finding one of those) will find this difficult to turn down as long as you put effort into the earlier parts of the relationship.

So have faith Whacksmith, there is light at the end of the tunnel!


It's just advice, fellas. Do whatever the FUCK you wanna do

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Default 02-08-2010, 09:18 PM

I know how you feel man, I fucked a few girls that are pretty rank while on the rebound, the shame will go away after a few months and be replaced with a funny memory and a good story to tell your mates. But I would go get yourself down to the clinic!, make it a regular thing to if you are out on the game, sometime these nasties take a while to rear there ugly head
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Default 02-08-2010, 10:17 PM

Funny way of looking at it.

Get yourself checked then cheer up. Thats a pretty cool story... you now have a much clearer idea of what girls you like/ don't like.

One thing you can do now is genuinly screen girls more. Each girl you meet try and find out if she really is good enough for you. Assume that they arent and let them win you, whilst amusing yourself with your pickup talents.

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Default 02-08-2010, 10:25 PM

OK FOR UR EASE A DOCTOR TOLD ME "unless ur shaggin foreigners... u have practiaclly 0 chance of gettin aids from joe public. so stop stressin

My story: after readin the game i wanted to try some new shit... only read it a week prior, went out, was natural anyway but with my new methods tried on some ugly chick... went to hers, fucked her and it was A CHORE to fuck her,

next day felt sick and swore NEVER TO BANG AN UGLY CHICK AGAIN

as of then i havent. BANGING WOMEN U DO FOR VALIDATION AND NOT ENJOYMENT IS A WASTE OF TIME... IT DE VALUES YOUR WORTH FROM OTHERS AND YOUR OWN SELF IMAGE

ONLY FUCK GIRLS U WANNA FUCK... FOR FUN


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