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Default Help me disarm AMOGs - 11-06-2010, 09:24 PM

One thing that kills my game before it even starts is AMOGs and competition.

I havnt got a clue what to say or do to disarm them, and my social impotence in the face of competition is reflected in my body language, further lowering my value in comparison to them.

If I new what I was doing, I feel that I would stand a chance of having the confidence to not be tooled out by these guys.

I would appreciate any tips you guys could give on holding your own when faced with competition.
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Default 12-06-2010, 08:13 AM

1. Appear unaffected
The true alpha male is not hurt when some takes the piss out of him. He doesn't even acknowledge what the other guy says. Hear what you want to hear. If some choad says "hey, love the tie, you going to work?' You can just say 'thanks'. The other guy will start to get frustrated as none of his insults hit. Just smile, don't even listen to the words coming from his mouth and say your own stuff.

2. Always take the frame and hold the dominant frame
Low value males will listen to what's said to them intently and go along with it. The alpha male doesn't value other peoples trains of thought (frame) as much as his own. If some chpad says to you: 'hey love the scarf, are you going skiing?', you can say: 'you sound like that guy. What's his name? Mr bean! I'm calling you mr bean from now on. Hey mr bean go get me a drink. Don't feel you have to answer any questions or follow their frame. You make your own frames.

Hope they help. Just remember, you have the unshakeable belief in yourself and you don't even care what these choads have to say. Anything that comes out of your mouth is worth 100 times more.
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Default 12-06-2010, 09:28 AM

agree with twisted on this one,
you have to believe deep down that your'l the man to be respected and followed and this will show to others around you, dont try and act different for this but be a little assertive when you speak and lead the conversation rather than follow it, if an amog turns his attentions to you and has a little fun at your expense then ignore all what he says as if he doesnt exist in the group and this will instantly lower his status
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Default 12-06-2010, 10:43 AM

Try to not take what someone else says about you so personally. If someone throws an insult at you and it's affecting your state it's because you're being too self conscious, and you care too much what other people think about you.

If you wanna be successful in most things one of the first obstacles you have to cross is being indifferent. You WILL get a lot of shit from other people if you are hitting on random women, mainly from other women but occasionally from guys. Try to imagine that they're actually you're friends but are just having a little dig at you for a laugh. In fact I would say that the one thing that really helped me from being a self conscious chode to being indifferent was my ability to give people unconditional positive regard, or that is, I fell in love with other people because I realised that they are the same as me, they have the same problems and issues and needs as me, and they are just trying to deal with the absolute absurdity that is life, just like me.

I never get shit of guys any more cos of the unthreatening vibe that I give off. I walk up to a group of people and am genuinely interested in them, because the more people you meet, the more that you learn about people which is really what this stuff is all about any way. Once it all becomes familiar territory, it is a much friendlier place, which allows you to have the confidence that you want to have.


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Default 12-06-2010, 04:21 PM

Thank you for the advice guys.

I have a further question for you, in line with your advice. If you ignore an AMOGs attempts to lower your status, that prevents you being personally affected, indeed, but does it still have the potential to lower your value to other people in the set? Or is it purely your reaction to criticism that determines the value you gain or lose?
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Default 17-06-2010, 05:22 PM

i find in that instance both men and women will look differently towards you, it could potentially lower your dlv in the eyes of the men in the group as alot of chodes seem to play up to people reacting to a certain line or question and mabe want some banter to happen rather than you ignoring the amog completely

the women can potentially see you ignoring the amog as a good thing as it will show to them your not fazed and thats something to be admired

how you react to the critiscm will definetly determine whether you dlv or dhv yourself, think you've just got to size up the situation and be clever with it

in my group of friends theres a number of amogs rather than the one and so im quite used to being one rather than standing up to one, it all depends on the situation aswell as alot of amogs might not take too kindly to you coming back with a smart comment or dlv'ing them but if you are going to say something back just make it clever and beyond the amog, good luck mate
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