so we all know that you can generally tell a girl likes you that you have first met through various iois and kino etc. but wen u have girl mates, the same normal iois such as hugging, kiss on the cheek, grinding, grabbing asses, general compliments about your looks that u get from girl you have just met dont mean the same from a girl u are friends with.

the thing is that a girl mate of mine has recently really changed her appearance, lost alot of weight and is looking ultra fine. which has made me look at her in a different way, so i started getting a bit sexual but in a playful way and she played back. she grabs my ass and there seems to be something there.. but its hard to read her as well she might just be more playful and flirtacious now that she knows she's hot and just wants to have a bit of fun flirting with me. so iois i receive from her if they were from a random girl i would def think it was on, but with her its not as 100 %.

she kinda flirts a little with my other friends but no were near as much as with me. its still hard to read her, sometimes im talking to her on facebook and she might call me "friend" or "dude". However, what i consider a major ioi from her was over the past few weekends. All of us would go out my mates and my girl mates, and we would come back to mine, 3 or 4 of my girl mates including her would end up in bed with me, just laughing and talking, but then the girls would ring a taxi and go home, they asked this girl if she is coming with them, now her house is right around the corner, there was plenty of room in the taxi but she said no and stayed in bed with me.

so we just feel asleep together, i considered making a move on her but i felt way to nervous to do it, i couldnt figure out whether she wanted me to do something or not. she would be lying beside me on her side away from me, not making it easy to or subtle to put my arm round her or "cuddle"(hate that word lol), so as she was lying away from me and went bascially straight to sleep i didnt make a move. this situation has happened twice so far and im not sure about what to do. A perhaps important note is that i suspect she is a virgin, my friends have never seen her even kiss a guy in a club before and have known her for about 4 years and never seen her with a bf, therefore she might just be too timid to do anything with me and wants me to make all the moves. I'm sure you can see my dilema, we're friends so making a move on her like that in my bed could really mess things up, its very high risk and takes alot of guts, which i have had a serious lack of recently, experiencing major aa lately. So i have a free house in a couple of days and im sure the situation will arise again, so any advice on what to do, even if she was to lye turned towards me i could kino escalate, stroking her arm, slowly to her leg etc etc, testing the waters but how could i get her to do that without sounding overtly sexually interested..?

n.b.

im going back up to my uni and theres a possibility of sex, (im a virgin) i think i will not have sex using this girl as an excuse in my head, wen really im just nervous, or do u think its something more real, like i really would prefer to have sex with her for my first... it would be great i would have no regrets, but this may end up being an excuse not to get any other girls..


Appreciate your time peeps, any feedback would be awesome

peace

just go for it mate if she stayed in your bed when the other girls left she was definately looking for more and probably kept thinking i wish he would make a move on me! dont let another opportunity pass you just have to step up and go for it! Dont make any more excuses Just Do It!

I agree with Casanova. Sounds like she's deliberately putting herself in a position for you to make a move on her. If she jumps into bed with you again make a move, because it may be the last time that she does it.

Make the move. I did recently but it went wrong. She was playing me! But she was still flattered and the dreaded awkwardness faded very quickly and now we are just friends again. I'm glad I did it because now I know not to be wasting my time and even better I'm not sitting at home beating myself up over missed opportunities. The pain of rejection is fleeting, the pain of regret is forever!

Spot on.

Wow, some seriously good suggestions above. Nice one chaps.
Dunno if I can top them, but here goes:

You seen the movie 'kids'? Do what casper does in the final scene. GUARANTEED full close.

yea a different girl, who is a also a friend who has a bf, who i also really like is going on a placement year so i prob wont see her ever again, i saw her for the last time today and im really fking pissed at myself that i didnt say anything to her, i could muster ttogether the courage and to tell her how i feel, im just not a person who talks about their feelings, i kept thinking she is happy were she is with her bf, i dont want to mess that up on her unless im 100% i want a relationship with her, i dont want to hurt her, i dont want to be rejecting etc etc all this shit went through my head and i didnt act. i feel horrible....

the girl who i was orginally talking about for this thread it might not be too late and i need to let her know how i feel.. but has anyone had a friend that theyve had feelings for and just came out and told them and been succeful, or know anyone personally who has... it would just help my mindset cos all i can think of is that it may not work...