Keep getting the legitimate sound excuse for dates
 

Nice to meet people here.

I'm not bad at getting dates from pof and Tinder and but so many when it comes to the day of the date end up giving a legitimate sounding excuse and don't come. We reaarange and they have a legitimate sounding excuse again. Its literally happened three or four times to me now. Everything is fine, having good chat, arrange a place and a day a few days before, message an hour or two before the time of the date to make sure we are still on and then - bam they have a legitimate excuse or don't reply at all.

Does anyone have any advice to stop this or advice what to talk about in the days running up to the date? I find its a tightrope of keeping them interested and not forgetting me whilst not revealing too much about myself removing the 'mystery' about meeting me. Its driving me crazy.

Thanks!

If ur going on a date, don't stop messaging in case u fuck it up.

make them want to actually go on the date... try keeping in contact having banter...

Also, stop being so formal...

The less I message the less chance I have to do something to fuck it up, thats counter intuitive, my banter is damn good 'phil'

Ahhh my poor grammar returns.

I assumed u where not continuing texting etc.

I am fucking shit hot at this pre date game and I've been flaked on a zillion times.

Sometimes, women are just dickheads and neurotic or are caught up over some other dude or a bazillion other things.

Here is how i solved all of my problems with women.

I'm better than them all, they are all dickheads... they are all secretly insecure and all of the shit they portray is complete crap so i just smirk at their bullshit and nothing they say will even remotely get a rise from me coz they are just fucking women....

we are their masters. Don't let them know it, you don't need to ... don't even bother talking to them about it.

just fucking same shit different tits

It might be because she's really a whale and can't actually fit through her front door to go outside when she's done taking selfies at angles that make her look like she has tits.

Only joking, I'm not against using online means of finding girls, if it works for you and you can find hotties then that's cool. But I don't really do it myself... for the time invested, I would rather just go out and approach girls I find hot in person.

Sometimes girls flake, sometimes they're all over for a meet up. Get used to it. The way to reduce this is by becoming more attractive yourself, and having better pick up skills. But it's going to happen sometimes even for the best of players. The way to make sure you are getting dates and lays week in week out, is simply keeping your pipeline full and having a large amount of contacts to call upon.

If you have one girl in your phone and she isn't available on the night, then you go to sleep with your dick in your hand. If you have twenty girls in your phone to call on on the night, it's likely at least one is going to be receptive.

This is the reality. However, for you... I would recommend you get your ass outside and try meeting some girls that way.

I've got a few dates coming up this week from online, the current theory in my head is flaking on the date is often caused from sheer laziness or anxiety rather than maliciousness so I get them to choose the date and time - the complete opposite of what American pua reccomends and I've got better results.

Yeah i'm fine once I get talking to someone in the club but my approach anxiety is messing with me. I'm newly single after a long while so getting back to dating is a bitch

Try approaching men x

Why would that help or why you taking the piss?

but explaining things in a shit way is? What a way to run a forum

if i see a girl i like in a group with guys, i approach the guys.

or if i see a really hot guy.