What do I talk about with lesbians when they're talking about their women crushes?

I'm tempted to get into using SS while talking with lesbians as they start talking about their women crushes. I don't know what I'd really like to talk about and always have a kind of weird insecure feeling around them when they bring up topics like this. I mean it doesn't make me less of a male right? But at the same time, they know what's going through a woman's mind don't they? Or do they? I mean if they found it that easy to pick up other women then wouldn't ALL WOMEN BECOME LESBIAN?!?! I'm trying to figure out why I'm getting this weird feeling around lesbians talking about women they'd love to fuck.

Am I pedestalling lesbians? I'm pretty relaxed and it's not an anxiety issue. It's much much more subtle feeling of comfortable inadequacy. Does that even make sense? It's like an oxymoron. If they're outright self-proclaimed lesbians then that disqualifies them from all men right?

Anyway, I was curious if anyone ever picked up a lesbian? My idea was to start going into "What's it like when you feel attracted to someone like that? With me, it's more a deeper connection, when a person finds themselves feeling a connection and even wanting more, do you know what I mean? What's that like?"

Of course, then I'd attempt to feedback some trance words to her and attempt to connect the feelings to me. SS can be a slow process though and sometimes a girl could have more need for rapport. SS is rapport based game so I instantly don't have the 'lesbian-rapport' lol

Looking for more experienced guys to give me advice on talking with lesbians. My aims: To let them know I'm in the 'Secret-Society' of sex filled lives, To be able to attempt a pick up of a lesbian if possible.

I know I'm asking for much and someone could probably write a whole product on this as a niche marketing strategy but I digress. Any advice guys?

damn another weirdo... why is this forum attracting them all lol.

Well we're both still here too...

I know lol...

WOW making a lasting impression on this forum Topas357!! No seriously, keep up the good work, you're as welcoming as the North Korean Embassy. I'm truly surprised they've let you get away with treating newcomers to this forum with such grace and dignity. Glad your trusty sidekick daleinthedark agrees. But if you actually don't like my post then maybe don't reply with something disrespectful when someone asks for advice from guys he thought might be able to help him with.

@kowalski - SS is an abbreviation for Speed Seduction sorry, I should've made that clear, and yes the secret society stuff is referring to the famed Tyler D post.

I take it nobody has laid a lesbian or are not willing to share their knowledge in this then?

Hopefully I'll find my info elsewhere, cheers.

Depends exactly what you mean. I used to have a flatmate who identified as lesbian at the time, and certainly seemed to prefer girls to men, but would turn into a horny raging maniac when she got drunk. As I was a also a horny raging maniac at that point in time, the inevitable happened. That wasn't great on either side tbh.

Aside from that there have been a few girls who've been into both guys and guys, one who identified as pansexual, which either meant she was into everything or liked to fuck kitchenware.

These kind of things are all exceptions to the rule though.

I'll admit Topaz's reaction to your question was a bit over the top, especially considering that after being criticised when he first showed up here he spent several months doing contributing nothing but salty passive aggression. But, maybe it's not everyone else who is being unreasonable. Maybe you're the one who's being ridiculous.

You do realise that you're acting exclusively interested in the one group who, by definition, are not sexually attracted to men? To clarify, that means nope. Not fucking interested. Like if a gay dude used some slick PUA technique on you are you going to fuck him? If he could trick you into it would it be right for him to do that? Or would he just be acting like an unreasonable asshole?

There are tons, fucking tons, of women out there who love having sex with guys. The fuck's wrong with that? Why lesbians? Are you that jaded that you can only get a thrill by persuading someone who isn't actually attracted to you to fuck you? How often are you actually getting laid?

Really what this almost certainly is is that you're fettishizing lesbians as a byproduct of your own scarcity. If you were getting laid enough this kind of thing wouldn't even occur to you, let alone bother you.

But yeah, clearly we're the ones being unreasonable.

Stein, you need to post more dude. I really enjoy your input

My comment was a terrible shot at self deprecating humour

The same stuff you'd talk about your girl/guy friends when they talk about their crushes.

Why do you feel weird/uncomfortable? Why do you feel the need to be anybody but yourself?

Brilliant post Stein