Realise that everything that has happened (the exposed scam video, Andy shaming Tom, the email exchanges between Tom and Andy, Tom claiming it was an isolated incident) is entirely congruent with daygame.com being a scam company.

Of course, Andy would come out and scapegoat Tom Torero, and of course Tom Torero would go along with it. Scapegoating Tom minimises the financial losses of the company. Simple as that.

In fact, Andy seemed a little too eager to come out and publish all the (prefabricated?) email exchanges and text messages etc etc.

Watch the hands not the mouth.

Use this case to your advantage. Consider what makes you think Krauser, for example, 'routinely bangs girls half his age' or his statistics are as he claims...
1) you see him talk to girls on camera... and 2) uh, he just says he does.

It's not a question of whether gaming in general works. It's a question of the perceived value of the products that these companies sell.

If I was a salesman and I wrote a book or made a website about how to sell, I could tell the truth about how much I sell... or I could exaggerate a bit... or quite a lot... Would I really tell people if my selling average actually went down from last year? Would Krauser or any other pua?

Maintaining money flow, power and popularity is often a higher priority than telling the truth to a bunch of strangers whom one has no emotional ties to.

Just sayin.

You could post discrediting claims about your competitors in related communities...

Faulty logic. It would be counter-productive for a competitor to discredit a rival company in this manner, as it only serves to cast doubt on the entire industry. Better to support the idea that it was an isolated incident, as Krauser does in his blog.

And this is not to discredit anyone unfairly. This is only to repeat that age old but oft needed reminder to not believe everything one is told.

Given the intense difficult of exposing such scams and the fact that it's been done twice in recent times (Tom Torero and GLL) does make ya think... or at least it should.

Go ahead and watch their stuff, but just don't base the value of their methods on their claimed achievements, base it on intuition.

I went to one of Krauser's seminars back in November for like £40. This seminar was for recording his new Daygame Overkill product (10 infields). The dude definitely get's laid alot. In fact from when you watch it you can tell he is running at a different level than Daygame.com. I spoke to him afterwards about how many sets on that day fucked up, he was honest and said 3.

Daygame.com is just the same as pretty much all the other sites out there:

1. Its a sales driven business
2. They'll say whatever they need to for you to buy their product
3. It's all regurgitated and nothing new

Although having said that I've met Andy before and he is a really cool guy.

What is this, fucking tween gossip corner? Who gives a shit?

Not you, obviously. But don't make the tired narcissistic error of thinking only your interests exist. Oh, hang on, apparently 'pathological narcissism is very hard to treat successfully'. Oh well, wait until your next life perhaps.

But thanks for your post, entirely devoid of content relevant to anyone else, a mere expression of your feelings. Now, with much more objective legitimacy, I can really say, who gives a shit?

You're a faggot, you haven't even posted an intro as if this was such an important piece of news that you had to tell us immediately. Fuck off, eat shit and die.

This forum should have its name changed to Weattracttrollsandbellends.com.

Anytime mate