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Default 16-09-2013, 11:28 PM

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Sometimes girls feel slutty if you ask them back to yours in an open ended way. I tend to tell them they're coming back to mine to taste my homebrewed ale and to watch some classic comedy. Then, the rest takes care of itself.
Hmm... I like how you just say that they're coming back to yours as a fact. What's your opinion on what I should do now?
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Default 17-09-2013, 12:12 AM

Ask her to come back to yours so that you can pick houses in areas with good schools and low crime rates


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Cool 17-09-2013, 01:00 AM

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Ask her to come back to yours so that you can pick houses in areas with good schools and low crime rates
Is your point that it doesn't matter what you say as long as it's not "come back to mine for sex"?
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Default 17-09-2013, 03:59 AM

Actually it was a joke about your need for security and an LTR

However you seem to be picking up the point.

You're looking for specific advice for situations rather than amending your approach to women and life. Essentially you're looking to come out of your corner, snag yourself a beauty and then return.

That to me spells a recipe for disaster as you will depend on said girl for self-esteem and will become frustrated and she will lose the man she fell for.

Keep seeing this girl but don't get full on. See where it goes with no expectations other than to enjoy her company. Talk to other girls - the more you speak to girls the more at ease you'll feel. You'll also broaden your options and feel less dependent on single interactions


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Default 17-09-2013, 02:33 PM

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You're looking for specific advice for situations rather than amending your approach to women and life. Essentially you're looking to come out of your corner, snag yourself a beauty and then return.

That to me spells a recipe for disaster as you will depend on said girl for self-esteem and will become frustrated and she will lose the man she fell for.
Thanks, you've really hit the nail on the head here.

I'm aware of the fact that I'm still in that state of mind of "Holy shit, this girl ACTUALLY likes me, a rare phenomenon." and so as you've said, I'll be messaging her and then come back in half an hour to see if she's replied... worrying how she feels about me, ranting to friends and you guys about "am I doing the right thing? oh gosh darn what if i've blown it O_O".

These are all signs of my lack of confidence. I don't believe I can seduce girls, I even make up excuses to myself about why girls have liked me in the past to back up my belief that I'm not an attractive human being.

That's why I'm here really, for the initial kick up the arse to go and approach more women and then to build on that confidence and grow as a person.

I'm a tad confused about the last bit of your post though.
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Keep seeing this girl but don't get full on. See where it goes with no expectations other than to enjoy her company. Talk to other girls - the more you speak to girls the more at ease you'll feel. You'll also broaden your options and feel less dependent on single interactions
I understand the bit about improving my social confidence but what's the reason behind why I shouldn't go full on with her, taking into consideration I make it clear that I infact don't want a relationship but am interested in her sexually (I haven't built up the confidence to sustain a relationship as of yet)

Thanks for your time, this info is like gold dust to newbies like me.
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Default 17-09-2013, 02:53 PM

To put it simply see this girl and see where it goes. Enjoy it for what it is. Don't pressure it to turn into a relationship or just sex. Feel free to push it in the direction that you wish but don't be upset if it doesn't turn out as you hoped.

PU will try to tell you that you can turn any situation into a lay. Experience tells me this is not so. I lead things in the direction I want but if it doesn't work I don't flap and just enjoy what I have

talk to other girls and enjoy it.

The more girls you talk to, the more confident you will feel and you will feel less needy and dependent on single situations with one girl = less anxiety & more confidence


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Default Met a girl at freshers party how to progress Help please - 02-10-2013, 08:51 PM

Thank you I will give it a shot. Yes, the ability to save the pdf would be great. When we generate the report, we sometimes just want to see it in the web page, and other times we want to print it. I already have the app set up to print an existing PDF to a printer, so this would work great.

Anyhow Ill let you know how the code change works...
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I'm aware of the fact that I'm still in that state of mind of "Holy shit, this girl ACTUALLY likes me, a rare phenomenon."
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These are all signs of my lack of confidence. I don't believe I can seduce girls, I even make up excuses to myself about why girls have liked me in the past to back up my belief that I'm not an attractive human being.
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That's why I'm here really, for the initial kick up the arse to go and approach more women and then to build on that confidence and grow as a person..
You're not alone. A lot of that resonates with me. I could have wrote exactly the same about myself a few months back.

Things are gradually improving for me now. Not in results but I can feel a shift happening in my general outlook on life.

I'm not getting bogged down in trivia so much and obsessing about things that don't matter and don't help me in the long run. I'm a bit more focused on where I put my energies.

I'm not as intimidated by women's looks as I was. I'm realising they aren't that different, they just maybe have more options than an average looking woman.

I'm realising the one-girl-at-a-time approach I was relying on (plus hope) was not helping my cause as it reduces your options. Women can sense the desperation from you and it turns them off quickly. Or they might string you along for their own amusement and self-esteem for a while.

So you need to get the confidence to start multiplying your options. Confidence will also help you take control of situations when they come up so you are leading it more.

There's many ways to get confidence but they all take work and commitment of some kind.

One reliable confidence booster is working out regularly or playing sport. I joined a gym and go regularly. In December last year when I started all this I was digging the car out of the snow to get to the gym. I saw it as a test of how much I wanted to change.

Another thing that works is taking small risks like signing up for something you feel apprehensive about. I went to a language classes in the evenings. Didn't need to learn a language but it was just to get out of my comfort zone. I ended up quite enjoying it, even though my mind tried to convince me before signing up that it would be a complete waste of time. I'm more aware now that this is how human minds tend to work. They are very negative when it comes to trying new things.

I made myself vow never to turn down any social invitations, even if it's nothing more exciting than a pint and chat with my mates. Even though they're not always great nights it's a billion times better than being indoors, which does nothing for you.

The good thing about doing these things, apart from approaching, is you start building more of a life that a woman might feel she wants to be a part of. The kind of woman that you might want in your life. So it's moving the power more towards you, as the chooser not the chaser.

It's being the opposite of needy and desperate.

Of course while you're working on this you do need to approach and talk to women or they'll never know what they're missing ;-)


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