I stand by my original advice...

What is she doin by not waiting for me too get out the bus and just walking on her own?I feel like shes testing me or so.

She also mentioned a month ago when i first spoke to her (after that we didnt contact for a month coz I went on vacation) a man has to chase a woman.

Here's the kicker

OR maybe she's saying "hey dude just back off a bit, your confusing and always in my face. Your creeping me out!"

Happy Meal.

Problem solved.

You obviously really like this girl. As advised above, try suggesting a meeting in a low pressure situation to give her a chance to get to know you.

You're taking a very self centred view of me me me with this girl

Maybe she's having a rough time with other stuff. Maybe her last boyfriend played her or maybe she just enjoys her own company.

You're over thinking that people's actions are indicative of their thoughts and intentions towards you when realistically the world isn't revolving around you

As has been said - you've confused her a little. That's ok

Give her some space and if you want to know what the score is then ask her for coffee or whatever you want

Okkkkkkkkkkkkkk

I'm the last person you should take advice from on this forum about women, but heres my thoughts anyways:

But LISTEN to the advice Kowalski, Dale and in particular Phil have given you.

Here's a crazy thought: Don't text her for the next few weeks - heck make it a month, depends on your frequency of communication. Don't forcefully ask her to do stuff with you. Don't try and kino her and touch her face. Don't try and think of ways to get her comfort zone up. Don't try and chat her up.

Treat her like a normal person. Liike a girl you don't really know that well. Like a girl you see sometimes at the bus stop. It doesn't really sound like she's interested just now I'm afraid, and all the studff your trying to do to get her interested in you could end up pushing her the opposite way. You could end up coming across as a bit needy, desperate, weird and intense. The fact she's not waiting to walk with you sounds to me like she's a bit confused like another poster said, she could even be weirded out.

As Phil says "Stop trying to be a PUA" - all that stuff is weird.

I'm sure you'll read this and think "But I like her, I want something to happen, I need to do something". Try leaving her for a while - for a few weeks at least. She knows you like her, and that last text you sent her about trying to get her to go jogging with you - she might be reading it thinking "Oh, him again...."

If you regularly see her at the bus stop you can still make brief eye contact and give her a friendly smile and make some small polite chit chat and be partially social. Try leaving things for a while - then gradually talk to her a bit more in a friendly way, ask her how her weekend ios, has she been up to much, did she see that documentary on BBC 1 last night about drunk cats etc - whatever - just forget all that gaming stuff, if you want to start acting all flirty agian at least wait until she seems more comfortable talking to you. Once she's comfortable ask her out again.

If you dont want to completely fuck this up I think you should back off, you sound a bit desperate and over keen in your post and women don't like that - you remind me of my opening post on here about a girl i was besotted with. But I'm not great with women so i could be totally wrong.

will do mate, i texted yesterday night hey, got a great idea.. she already answered oooh noooo... (coz she thinks im unpredictable and a complete freak that could come up with anything). and i replied going to run this evening a bigger round then normal wanna join? i need motivation she replies: what time? me: 8 her: ok maybe

LMAO this girl...

Do it then. She might turn up, she might be a no show.

Either way you need to stop yourself from making your life rotate around her. She is completely in control.

Give yourself a few days no contact (presonally 3-7 days is enough for me) to get yourself sorted and to be able to see this from an outsde prespective.


Atm dude she had put a collar on you, attached a lead and is walking you around town.

a no show is a complete move on for me. i wont ignore her, thats afc. ill just be polite but never contact, delete number and if she goes left ill go right.

if she shows, ill try to set up a great time during our little run, get to know her but be flirty..

ye she prolly feels her self in control coz i asked her out more then once

I didn't say ignore her, you should refrain from contacting her.

That time without talking is your ally. It builds up tension, stimulates her mind, give you time to look at the situation, might even turn the cards so she starts chasing you, etc...

Either way, if you meet tonight or not, sometime in the very near future you need to do the above.
She likes unpredictable people. Well dude your becoming quite predictable.


You need to relax and stop this full on approach, go out with your friends for a few days, let her know your world doesn't centre around her, cos atm it looks like it does