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Default My Master Plan - help? - 30-12-2009, 02:54 PM

Hey guys. I think i have quite alot going for me because im young, Im only 19.
The problem is that i wanted it all now now now, and i got dragged into solid pure just read, read, read... any, all, every piece of information i could find on pick up and that type of thing. All the different news letters i signed up for . If anything it messed my head up.
The only reason I even started looking at this stuff was to be able to learn how to smoothly move into getting pysical with a female. As i didnt really know how (age of 16). I had plenty of chances, with lots of different high quality girls. After comming out of the addictive trance of wanting every piece of information out there thinking its going to make me amazing just by reading it, I have come to realise somthing you will probly think im VERY stupid or what ever but it was my addicition, and this was about a month ago i came out of it...I have been in this trance since i was 16 !
I HAVNT GOTTEN ANYTHING I WANT OUT OF PICK UP SO FAR, or what ever you want to call it. Yeee sure i can tell when a guy is gaming a girl from watching him go through the proccess of building comfert, kino etc. But when i try to put into practise on the VERY few approaches i have done, its increadibly hard to think on your feet (I want to be a natural). Its all good having all this knowlage but if no experiance is there, theres no point i dont think. Not only have i basicly got to start from the begining and get some experiance, i have to try and salvage my head, because what ever i used to do worked before i started reading all this stuff. So ye. Just a warning to anyone new comming into this, watch out for all the marketed stuff claiming its diferent new or what ever and not to get caught up in it and addicted.
So onto my question. I need advice. theres two paths i can go. One i go back to how i used to, but to be honist i dont wat to because i was quite shy and didnt really have any communication skill's. Two, i make a plan of how im going to get where i want.
What do i want?
I want to be able to get mostly any female i want. I know 100 percent success is not achivable, but i would like to be able to just know i can get pritty much any female i like regardless of how they look, who they are, what the social status is, etc....and have good understanding of all different sorts of situations, so i can learn how to deal with them and help other guys deal with them. So where do i start....How do i get there? I really dont know, all i can think is just get out there and sarge. but i find it hard as i have noone to learn from really (wingman). I do have a offer of a guy who lives here (from this forum), so maybe i should give him a text up and get out there? Any advice guys and critisisums, all welcome, i just want to get sorted onto the right path to getting where i want or as close to where i want to be.
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Default 30-12-2009, 03:15 PM

the first thing is to accept its trial and error...

do you have Approach Anxiety? Are you confident to go up and approach women comfortably, in a fun-friendly way??

that is the key starting point...

for me, when i was an AFC (i still am sometimes) my main probelm was, i'd stand there in a pub or bar or club, thinking to myself, how i thought i could get women like that, and thought about how if things were only a bit different (scenario, people i was with, etc) id go in for the approach, but alas i never did......

...then i learned to approach!

I had to step-up and make approaches, which ultimately led to my success...

because the more approaches you make, the more likely you are to succeed.

Once i knew HOW to make a good solid approach i was set. I learned from (The Game) which gave me a good structured strategy, a plan to follow, consisting of...

3-second rule: See a girl, manouvre into position within 3 seconds, thus not giving myself time to talk-myself-out of it.

Opinion-Based Opener: Some of these werent true, but they were there to start an open-ended conversation, where opinions could be shared and others could join in... that was the principle.

A playful Neg, followed up with some cold-reading.

I love the rings-routine, if you put the right slant on it, you can make it pretty funny, and make it draw-out a bit, and add kino as it goes!

Id always anchor and put a time contraint in... and keep the first approach and open limited to no more than 5 minutes...

Then id be off, out of sight, trying it on another set!

Setting myself up platforms to return to as i went on...



this general strategy, was a spring-board to my PUAmanship. Really helped me a great deal, as i learned eventually, through success and the odd fail, not to fear rejection and eventually my confidence grew and now shows quite naturally, it was a real help!

hope u find some of this info useful!

Picard!
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Default 30-12-2009, 04:17 PM

Sounds like a case of 'analysis paralysis' I've been guilty of this to in the past, wanting to consume every bit of pick-up related material I could find, only to discover methods contradicted each other or certain methods did not suit my personality type. This creates mass confusion in the mind and rather than being helpful is a hindrance. Try to clear your mind of most of the jargon and bullshit and go back to basics.

You say you are quite shy and lacking in communication skills. I once had this myself to a crippling degree, I'm alot better now but still feel quite introverted at times. My advice would be to work on this area of yourself before you submerge yourself into picking up women. If you begin to work on this area and begin to see improvements this will help with your general confidence whilst acquiring new attributes. Start by being more talkative and expressive with friends and family, speaking your mind more and grow from there.

Too many guys falsely believe that learning some 'pick-up' material is the answer to all their prayers with women. It is not, it will not fill that void in your life if there are other gaping voids in your life which need addressing. Prioritise, get your shit together first in your own life and when you feel content with that women will fall into your life alot more easily.


It was fear of myself that made me odd
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Default 30-12-2009, 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Hustler25 View Post
Prioritise, get your shit together first in your own life and when you feel content with that women will fall into your life alot more easily.
Amen to that brother!

I've been guilty of this way of thinking before, especially over the last couple of weeks where I haven't been out picking up. We tend to overthink and overanalyse things.

Instead, like Hustler says, use this newfound skillset and its associated confidence to make leaps forward in all aspects of your life. I think back to before I started picking up women, I used to be shy about talking to strangers, even to ask where something is in the supermarket. Little things start coming together and grinding forward, success with women being one of them.


It's just advice, fellas. Do whatever the FUCK you wanna do
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