I was just wondering if any one does magic tricks or palm reading, something that is neat, to demonstrate higher value? I mean I know a few cards tricks, one of which requires the female to give you a peck on the lips and cards switch places and fireworks go off and its magical. Nah im kidding but the illusion is that you kiss and the cards switch. But yeah, does any one use magic and if so what tricks do you use, or does any one do anything like palm reading and how do you work this sort of stuff into a routine?

careful magic's banned in most uk bars and clubs no one wants a repeat of 2003 flying elf incident.

magic can be a DHV if its done right, i mean i've had a deck of cards with me one time i went out and was doing magic tricks, every single time i pulled out the deck of cards the women would be screaming and be all energetic asking for more, i mean if your shit at it then its going to be a let down and its going to be a DLV

If that's your bag then cool. You have to fucking own that shit to be 'higher value'. I could just as easily demonstrate higher value talking shit about art to a girl, but that's cos I own that shit.

exactly, and what i was asking was for the people who do own at magic, what tricks they use and how they incorporate it into their routines, i mean im no dynamo but im pretty good, i do around 5 different card tricks really fucking good, and to tell you the truth i only do about 2 or 3 different tricks for one set, i dont think i've ever used up all 5 tricks before lol i remember one time though i was doing a classic pick a card, this your card, and she had seen it before, and said she knew how it was done, because he friend was into magic, so i palmed her card and hid it away and gave her the deck and told her to finish the trick and she was like oh okay, and starts looking through the deck to find her card, she was like omg where the hell has it gone, i pull out my phone and it was set as the wall paper (Y) she went kind of mental

plus i have a good way to build up kino, because most of the time they ask how i do my tricks, and then i tell them that there is only one trick that i dont mind teaching people because its so easy, and then they always cant seem to get the fingering right, so im there touching there hands and stuff normally commenting about how soft their hands are, i'm guessing that people who palm read also make the same comment?

I don't do routines as it feels fake to me. Do you not find that a problem?

not really, im good at faking shit so i find it easy doing routines

Well, I guess the question for me is not if I'm good at faking shit, more am I good at expressing my true self. Do you not feel you can be you in front of the girl?

i am only myself in my head, what every one sees in me is exactly what i want them to see