Right I'm sick of being flaked... I can get into sets, get numbers... sometimes bounce them back to mine but when I bounce seems to be my only sucess lately... before i read into this i had a much lower flake rate but since i read into pua i have a much higher number rate... or man this is fucking with my head...

Basically girls keep enjoying my company, Clearly showing attraction towards me, I must k-close really efficiently... But when i make arrangements they are always happy to make them but i seem to be constantly getting let down at the last minute... I've heard every excuse in the book... I have the confidence to make a day 2 go down well but at the moment I'm in some shit self for-filling prophecy of being let down on 100% of day 2 arrangements... dunno I'm just really pissed. i must have had 10 day twos arranged over the last 2 weeks and every single one has cancelled... any ideas guys? I know I haven't give much details but i dunno what to say...

Also say I get a number now obviously all the material I've read is like call her leave a message and all that shit but would you guys say that applies in the UK? I mean I don't tend to leave messages or even call usually I text pretty much everything... Should I change this approach?

Appreciate replies... Sorry for not really giving much to go on but I would be here all day explaining each situation... :/ Think I'm more or less after a shove into the right direction generally than anything...

Much love
.db x.

Cheers K I will try to give it a little more detail but I've been trying all sorts of ways of going about the interaction...

My main two tendencies for gaming are these:

- Dance floor game (little talking or at-least little heard)

- Normal game in the queue (I try to talk to every girl thats near my position in the queue to the venue)

The reason I do this is because all the venues in my area are too loud to game inside unless you literally goto a pub which I'm not quite comfortable with yet plus the standard of girls seems lower...

I have a problem with AA In the club... not so much in the queue for some reason... I think because I know they are all bored and I tend to have a high success rate if I go find one of the people I met later on in the night. But altho I think I have pretty much sorted that out from watching and reading loads of shit now but I haven't been out in a little to test this so let me just explain my practiced approach.

To manage my problem with AA I use my dancefloor game... I basically dress well I'm not bad looking so this obviously helps and I get my state really pumped... I genuinely try to have a great time with just my friends because I find that it gets girls approaching me and trying to get my eye contact which basically clears my AA...

I know it would be better to just open myself, and Im working on that but I get approached a good 3/4 times a night just doing this so its pretty cool and if I play it right and don't skrew things up (which I usually do after K-closing people) I manage to get numbers k-close pretty much everyone of them.

So for example... This one girl I actually managed to take home a couple of weeks ago... she was pretty fit... really small which Im pretty attracted too (this sounds terrible but she was 2 years older than me :P). I got her to come home this was the first time I had this success with a total stranger... I managed to go from kissing on the couch to laying on my bed, me on top kissing... Tried to move it forward, Reached LMR and then didn't even bother to try to get passed it because I felt the nerves getting to me and I was already chuffed with what I had achieved...

Got her number she seems happy enough texting me ect seems really into me to be honest but I made 2 dates with her and she told me the first one her phone died and the 2nd she was ill... The thing with it is that its the same with all the girls I feel like it might be genuine excuses because they are happy enough to continue talking to me and happy enough to set up other dates... then they seem to drop out on the last day every time! Its so frustrating because its taking me longer to get past this because I don't get much time free and each of them is taking a full day... Like if they said no before the last day I would make other arrangements but they tend to say like a hour before... pisses me off...

Second example... Queue game a while back... I got say 10 girls all talking to me over the space of 30/40 minuets in a really long queue i got stuck in a while ago and i got 6 people on facebook from it (btw I was clearly fully pumped with state and they all fucking loved me... I was truly sex-worthy that night) but this was when i first got into game... I went in and started getting with some other girl I was already seeing... now i got these 6 girls on facebook... I then got 3 of there phone numbers (The better ones). And when I seen one of them out she came straight over and was literally trying to seduce me there and then in the club. It turned me totally off even tho she was pretty hot. I totally blew her off and then later received loads of texts along the lines of "where did you go? come back to mine it will be fun " ect ect ect... now at the time i was just like wtf is this girl and turned if off... next day shes all apologetic and adopts a hard to get position immediately... Now she seems to have standards my attraction for her rose and i try to get her to come over watch a film or w.e and i get blown out... I mean wtf... the girl was begging me to come over just for sex... now she literally blows me off just for plans...

So yeah I seem to find those situations or very similar ones commonly... Must have gotten 10+ seriously interested girls over the last 3 or so weeks but no days 2's... and I don't know what I'm doing wrong...

Cheers for advice
Much love
.db x.

what kinda things do you text?

do you keep up the cocky/funny vibe?

theres a link somewhere around these forums to a very good text game article.

its along the lines of "every text she sends.. read it as if its her saying: a) she wants to fuck you .. b) she is in love with you .. then respond accordingly."

im sure someone who has it bookmarked will post it below.

my advice would be reduce the amount of texting / phone game you do.. only reply if its a "reply to" txt.. you may think they'll loose interest.. but they'll come back soon enough! just keep the faith. and when you do reply, keep it flirty and make sure you're having more fun that she is.. and it shows in your text! ... save the further rapport building for the day two.

First of all - well done DB :-) Sounds like you are really progressing your Game and although you have reached a sticking point you are in a place where a lot of guys on here are still trying to get to, so you should take some merit in that!

I havn't mastered phone Game yet and so I am not going to give my two-pennies worth on that as such - all I will say is that when you first started out I imagine out of 100 girls you might have got 4 or 5 numbers....now by the sounds of it you are getting 70 numbers and about half of those in kiss-closes too...So when you text 10 girls for 2nd dates and you get 0 responses don't be disheartened (I know it's hard not to be) but give it time and as you hone your techniques you'll get more numbers and the chances of 2nd dates will multiply and before too long you should have a pretty full social calender!

But again, well done Brother - sounds like you're well on the way :-)

Thats actually a really really good point cheers for making me realise that one...

As for the opening thing I really need to get that down, I went out in leeds for the first time on tue, I opened a girl straight away k-closed with no words spoken lol less than 10 seconds into the set, I left her without saying a word... lmao then every time I seen her that night I made out with her but I never spoke a word the whole night lmao it was funny as... But because I did that so early on in the night I managed to get well into state... Possibly the most I've been since starting pua and I got 7 k-closes one of which I would have said was the nicest girl in the whole club... And 3 of them i didnt speak a word too, Just grabbed them while they walked past lmao class to just see my friends jaws drop at the sight of it.

But really i need to try to make this sort of night consistent... Good fun tho.

Much Love
.db x.

Yup - as I said...you're well on the way by the sounds of it DB - glad you're enjoying yourself out there :-)