Hiya guys, just a warning for you pro's most of this is proper basic stuff but some of you newer guys may be interested.

Buying girls drinks
This is the most obvious but being a barman I often see guys buying drinks for girls they hardly know. The other night some girl had her drink bought, the guy saw his friends and turned away, and I said "He must be the nicest man in the world" and she was all like "There is no nice with guys, he just expects me to owe him something later" - she was totally displeased and needless to say this guy got nowhere.

Hiding sexual interest
This is a big problem for me especially; Loads of guys are afraid to show their sexual desires (cos thats what those chodes do init?) when in actuality this puts women off. In the same way buying a girl drinks, being nice to them(for no reason) and hiding sexual interest makes them suspicious. My friend is a typical example of this, he is literally a god at opening and getting into conversations, but the balance of power quickly changes and after 10 minutes hes following them and buying their drinks. Girls either think he's creeping around them to get sex or just think he's a friendly nice guy(but not a suitable sexual partner - the usual case). My biggest problems with being overtly sexual is that I think they may think I'm an average chode or just desperate. But this doesn't need to be the case.

"Women prefer polite over rude, and attentive over distracted. The problem is the way nice guys present these positive characteristics. In order to appear friendly and romantic, these 'nice guys' think they have to turn off their sexuality. They hide their desires in order not to offend, presenting an androgynous, asexual persona. The first impression they give is one of emasculation, weakness, and lack of desire. At best, they confuse the woman as to whether they even find her attractive" - Tony Clink

Girls want sex as much as guys but they don't really need to fight to get it(though they want to) and so they just 'pick' guys who they feel has the most value. Girls like chasing guys and they want a guy who they have to work for but at the same time can create sexual tension and reward their efforts. There is a fine line between acting interested and looking desperate.

"The biggest problem is that most Nice Guys are hideously insecure. They are so anxious to be liked and loved that they do things for other people to gain acceptance and attention, rather than for the simply pleasure of giving. You never know if a Nice Guy really likes you for who you are, or if he has glommed onto you out of desperation because you actually paid some kind of attention to him." - HBI

Ultimately girls are attracted strong personalities and not being afraid to reveal your sexual desires shows social power. Of course this raises the question of how can you show interest but not look like a chode and this is one of, if not the, hardest question in pickup and is something that can only be really answered after a fuck load of practice.

Excellent article.
This is god stuff even for more seasoned PUAs as it's always good to be reminded of these things.

Shall I move it to the seduction advice section?

Thanks man! Yeah sure, I didn't realise I put it in gen chat lol

from an actual female perspective, this is so true! we play the 'free drinks game' on nights out to save money, whereby guys will so willingly buy all our drinks for us! perfect for poor students, if not a bit immoral! from my point of view guys are just trying to get us drunk.....i wonder why?!

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Lol, kowalski you're such a hero man. Its pretty common for girls to try getting free drinks, a lot of my girl friends do it. Fair game though, if they guy wants to buy them there's no reason not to take them. It all contributes to the ultimate objective - pure uncompromising drunkness! On a side note I'm going to a kickboxing social tonight, and there are hella loads of hot girls, so wish me luck!