Hi

I'm looking to go out and meet some girls in London one evening next week. My ideal nights would be Wednesday (30th June) or Thursday (1st July). Would any of you London lot like to meet up?

Ideally I'd like to meet up in Central somewhere, but I am also open to suggestions.

It would be good to have someone from here to help me break through the AA. I've also read about the Wildcard thing you do which sounds a great way to push yourselves into it.

Any experience levels are welcome. Personally, I am ok with women once I get going. Occasionally I am good, whereas other times I will drop the odd clanger or too!

My main issue appears to be that sometimes I feel self conscious and become tongue tied, whereas other times I am completely confident. The psychology behind the difference remains a mystery to me and is an ongoing personal work in progress! Comments on this are welcome too!

Thanks
Snake Eyes

I have a similar problem. Its probably something to do with how you vibe with different people in different contexts. Some girls you will connect with because you have something to connect about, and the situation makes it easy/ natural, others times you have less in common with them, or there are other obstacles, so it takes more work/ balls.

Personally, I need some kind of affirmation or IOIs from a girl before I can take off and be fully confident. Otherwise it can be like climbing a barbed fence. However, I'm working towards not needing that.

I would be up for meeting next week if you're on it - wed or thurs. pm me if so

Hey Snake Eyes - I think I am up in town on Friday if that's any good for you?

Thanks for the responses guys.

I'm busy on Friday and most of the weekend I'm afraid, but could do Wednesday next week (and possibly even Thursday too!).

I agree with your comments Cherks, I definately have times where I can just sit back and it flows (flojo, as a friend and I once described this as). I seem to know that I will kiss the girl and probably more. I don't even need to look for IOIs or anything. In fact I'm not even thinking about it really, I'm just having fun.

It's usually when I start thinking about things to say and looking for IOIs it goes to pot. I feel my mind goes empty and I question if I'm interesting myself (which is silly, as right now sitting here in front of my computer I know I am). I also resort to interview type questions and the whole thing is just very unsexual and kinda boring! (This we called nojo.......ahem!)

Third parties are also an issue. For example I am bad at chatting up girls when my close friends are around I've noticed (likewise I become tongue tied around clients at work when my bosses are there). I'm not sure if this is because I subconciously think they are judging me or if I am somehow intimidated by by friends?! Whatever it is I want to develop tehcniques to minimise these occurances.

Its not all doom and gloom though lol! I know I can be very charming, interesting and fun to be around. I guess the main reason I am here is to ensure I utilise these aspects of my personality to their full extent! I see so many people who settle for second best, as they seem scared of life almost. I view this as a bit upsetting and never want this to happen to me!

Ok, I've started waffling now so I'll stop! Comments again welcome and I'll PM you Cherks. If anyone else is around Wed/Thurs let me know.

Have messaged you bud

Hello Snake Eyes,

I enjoyed your comments as I can relate to most of them.

It is have been now almost a year since I got into this, and there has been good and bad nights. Same as you, I would like to evolve and overcome my personal blocks.

In my opinion the main problem has been 'vibing', I couldn't find much to relate with the girls so there wasn't a good vibe. But I think there is another factor that makes game inconsistent and it is about honesty and intention; 'do I really like the girl?'. I can see when I truly like the girl I approach that the doors are open there is less resistance from my side and hers.

I am free to go out on Thursday, and Central London is good for me.

Uri