Firstly
Location; Edinburgh , Mad Doggs bar
Wing; Makeover and with non PUA friends

Went out on a thursday night with makeover (semi peacocking) and started a confidence building session just involving a quick random asking of questions to different sized sets and recieved various responses some good some bad and so totally random.
Moving on.. had a few drinks trying to stick to the two drink rule then decided to change venue to maddoggs bar where a few of our coleauges were socializing.
After a 5 minute cab ride and arrogant cab driver we arrived at the bar.upon entering i saw a 5 set with a couple of 7's and two 8's. i discided to walk past as if i was going to the toilet with a big smile on my face , as i walked past i recieved an IOI from one of the 7, but instead of been confident and doing the 3 second rule i flaked and carried straight to the toilet, restyled my hair and walked straight past again still failing to approach and sat back with makeover and told him of my failure (makeover is a little more experianced than my self) so he decided a lil more confidence building was needed.
Looking around he saw a 2 set with a 4 and possible a 6.5 at a push and decided this was the confidence test , ha easy i fort to try and get the 4 but didnt think about the 6.5.
The test was simple go up and say a phrase, simple ish.
as i approached with makeover a stone throw away i put on my big smile and came in side on to the set as i moved closer the 6.5 stood up and walked towards the toilet i moved to the side to let her pass bodies quite close together and boom IOI with a smile.i still carried out my approach towards the 4 who was slowly falling into a 3.5 ha.
Midway "hey me and my friend over were just discusing, and this may sound random but which is the best type of water , like flavours or gaiteraid and stuff?"
3.5 (with a confused look) " ha well thats random"
M "so come on whats it got to be, waters a serious bussiness "
3.5 " ha , hmmm , okay, i like volvic fruit one" ( or some shit like that ) and carried on abit of banter and fluffing.
The 6.5 was had now returned and sed i was in her seat , ideal my target had returned and i was right on cue for the neg.
M "wooh is she always as bossy as this "
3.5 "ha,ha"
6.5 "noo, i didn't mean it like that"
M "so come on is she actually a meanie all the time "
6.5 " really am not like that, i didnt mean it badly " ( as she pulled up a chair)
after a bit more banter i turned to the 6.5 and sed "ok ill forgive you but remember your in my debt tho for been that mean " she seems to smile more nd asked my name boom second IOI abit more talking and 3rd IOI she wanted to know more and askin questions. i could here makeover saying "kino" "kino" ha ha. so i moved closer and touched her elbow which lead to alot more touching from both sides but every1 was going to the club so i sed ad love to continue the convo but i had to go with my friends, ill have to call you sometime" obviously she sed i didnt have her number bingo 2 seconds later i did a friendly K-Close with a number not too bad.
venue change telling makeover of the success he had seen, now in mood not too many people in still quite early. Txt comes threw its the 6.5 (sarah as i found out) she wanted to come were i was but againist my better judgement fort why not which limited my sarging and left makeover too him self. she arrived abit more fluffing and kino she had her tongue down my throat and my other friend had moved in on the obsticle ( ha ha not the best choice in the club but helped me)
I wanted to leave after a while didnt want a too l8 one so asked if she wanted to come back, denied she didnt want to leave tht early so wat could i do? i had k-closed nd had abit of sexual grouping so not a disapointing night so as i call in i popped smoke ( just went without notice) and left makeover too not the best wing should of told him but he was happy on the dance floor but that was my first time properly or close to sarging. alot of fun
cheers for reading

Midway

Hey nice one kissing on the first night out good stuff.


Here's a few things that came to mind.....

Approach more, I also need to do this but the more you do it the less it will bother you.

The opener sounds a little weird to me its not the most exciting topic but you made it work so I might be wrong or you through force of personality made it work.

Me personally I'm looking to develop the natural technique so I don't have to worry about openers, techniques and whether I've gone through the right steps.

Oh what's a friendly K close? Surely all K closes are friendly and what's sexual grouping, are you having moresomes already!!?

Anyway seems like you are doing well keep it up!

When i first started out back in January and a few times I was out with Jynxy and Swype, I had to use a lot of canned openers and the main one was the dental floss opener or the the fight outside the club. I think now just mentioning the dental floss opener to these two guys would send shivers to their spines . As time passes and you getting confident in the field, things do come naturally. I stand in the bar now asking things like "what cocktail you drinking", "have you been served" or even some shit negging like "you look too young to be drinking that stuff"...! My point is canned opener is good when you start on your way. Altho I know the likes of Darood still love using canned openers...!

Much Success!

sometimes i find it hard to use canned openers and at the same time appear spontaneous. for me one that almost always works is 'can you recommend me a drink?' when approaching someone at the bar.

@midway: i love to make them feel a bit guilty or that they owe you something it gives yourself sort of an upper hand and at the same time enganges them emotionally. once they give in for this, its a good sign

ha Tom think you might have caught me out with an error with my spelling ha i ment groaping..and yes definatly more approaches think i just need to send out a barrage of approaches out one night but i need that confidence for the 7s and aboves and sets of more than 3 i flake
Canned openers i like them ,gives me a set plan to stick too. I think i'll use them as my training wheels untill am ready to progress but i need more openers any suggestions.
sometimes i forget eye contact too or at least afterwards when am trying to critic myself i can never remember if i held it
also any1 offer any descent books to read to help myself all round, i deploy to Afganistan and i intend on reading them over and over i've got 6months out there so i should be quite good on the theory side.

And thanks dudes you guys are a great help i feel more confident knowing you guys are behind me all the way

Midway

One bit of advice is look at her lips too

Openers - Does this rag smell like chloroform to you?
Or a more serious one ask her 5 uses for a condom other than sex, Sampi thought of this one I think. I'll guarantee that someone says water balloon.

*edit and there is always http://www.puaforum.co.uk/showthread.php?t=422

chloroform ha thats excellent man ha quality tom that really made me laugh im goin to use that and once again thanks for the help guys

Midway