Went out, saw that two chav's had opened on this 2 set of HB8 (tall!) and HB7 but were focusing all their attention on the shorter HB7 and ignoring the HB8 who was standing around looking bored.

I approached, opening with 'im just out meeting new people tonight'

Teased her about looking so bored, we laughed at what pussey's the chav's were for being intimidated by here height. I teased for being short (I was taller, but only just). She was leaning against the wall, so I complimented her on wearing a bright orange skirt out, took her hand, made her do a twirl so I was now the one leaning against the wall and she was standing out in the open.

She told me she was moving on to another club, is this an indirect invite?, I couldnt really afford the 15 quid entry. But got her to promise to take me out a show me the real camden night life, as this was was my first time I had been out in Camden. Number closed!

Keept bantering until her friend got bored of the chav's and said she wanted to leave, HB8 said she wanted to stay and finish her drink, I ejected saying I needed to find my friends.

The next morning text HB8

Me: Hey HB8! Hope you didn't cause to much mischief last night?
Her: Me cause mischef! Never! how was the rest of your night?
Me: Me and my friends always have fun, was to bad the last bus home was at 1.30 otherwise you might have lucky enough to see me throw down some moves guess im just not as hardcore partier as you! Got any big plans for today? Reading back over it now i think that message is poorly worded possibly setting of some creep alarms?

No reply from her since then, clearly she was interested, am i being a bit to gamey?

if i get a longish text like that, sometimes i can't be arsed because it means i have to type a kind of long text back and its just too boring/time consuming. it doesn't mean i don't like the person, it just means i don't know them well enough to go to the effort of meaningless conversation.

U make about three different points in the confines of one short text. Too many points, and who gives a shit what she is up to today? So don't ask. Needy. U did that question just to try to get her to respond.

If something well cool happened on night out then tell her, briefly.

Otherwise, make something up with is high energy, clearly ludicrously exaggerated and tied into the convo the two of u had earlier. E g if u talked about Cheryl Cole for a bit coz she is interested in a girl way in Cheryl then.....
text her about u being attacked by a Cheryl Cole lookalike, she was mad from being dropped from X Factor so we gave her contents of our pockets - Barry Manillo CDs - and ran off.

There is no question in this text, yet believe it or not it is designed to force a response from her --- esp. if this was a solid nunber close at the time u got her digits.

thanks guys was really clueless on this one.

Some good info in there rebus!

this is soo true! my first thought was to send a message like that, then I thought i would be tricky a play all this game shit(which i am bad at anyway) which backfired majorly.

Lesson learnt: Do what feels natural and my instincts tell me to do.

Take everyone's advice here and experiment. Then throw away everyone's advice and use what works with you. Don't throw away this advice though!

cam is right about being a man download some david x his e-book made a big difference in my game even though it's really short and simple.

plus your texts aren't much fun. I work in customer service and peeps say shit like "terrible weather out there" that shit is boring as fuck and I hear it all day long.

say if she's good she'll get a spank or something sexual without sounding like a 14 year old virgin.

How about.........

She was stood there feeling akward and low value because she wasnt getting chatted up
so in effect anyone and his dog could have opened her and got a positive responce
you asked for her number and she gave it to raise her self esteem and she wasnt actually arsed about you in anyway.

hence the lack of response from her txts --- so instead of spending your life taking your txt messages apart maybe just think that and move on and forget about her.

Maybe thats why ive got a date every night this week and you havnt?

if I had a date every night I'd be shagged out I like to have time away from birds and I never get any sleep cos they wake you up in the middle of the night. I have to lift stuff in my job so i can't blag it I have to get a reasonable amount of sleep most nights.