20 year old with the 3 ugly sisters
 

Okay just got back from meeting one of my facebook girls in a bar, she brought 3 of her friends but I knew she’d do this she hardly knows me and I want her to feel comfortable. So I’m treating this just like opening a group, she shows up and it turns out she’s only 20 (only just), dealing with groups is something I seriously lack experience in. It starts well, I get hugs from all (very friendly bunch), they seem happy that there friend has got herself a potential bf, I get social proof from my expensive watch, there each nodding with satisfaction, its all going well for about the first minute.

Then it starts, okay the problem here is 16 years difference between us (probably 10 in real terms because I look far younger) and I’m fielding serious assaults on the subject and not just direct they start joking with each other, pretty easy stuff when you’re used to crowd control but I’m not, one to one is where I’ve cut my teeth, not groups. I ignore some and change subject on others and make comments like chris evans and billy piper 16 years difference but now I’m starting to sound desperate, I look across at my girl and notice she seems embarrassed.

Since I don’t drink and game now i have this small galss of coke which i’m drinking when thinks turn ugly as my disguised uncomfortable BL gesture, my once excellent BL has now in the gutter and got me nervously drinking. After about 15 minutes, i’ve drained my glass and now standing there with an empty glass, I should just put it down and carry on but I need a breather to rethink how I can salvage this, so I say i’m going to the bar.

This is when they pull the mother hen shit and say they are heading off to another bar, guess who wasn’t formally invited. So she gets scooped up and they head for the toilet, I head to the bar decide to stay for a while and see if I can get some practice in tonight.

I’m stood at the bar looking for targets, I watch them leave and my girl detours the door to come and see me, she tells me where they are going next and says it should be a laugh I should come. Surprised is not the word. I say I’ve arranged to meet someone here but maybe head over later. I’ve not made any arrangements and definitely don’t fancy another round of dad jokes, I finish my drink and decide I’ve lost the stomach of PU tonight so head home.

I have to say whilst driving home I start to think that maybe the age gap was too much. I don’t normally go for such a big gap, to be fair I’d put her 25 If didn’t know, anyway I’m home with a beer and I get a txt about 10pm saying that they are heading off after the next drink am I still coming. I’ve not replied yet.

This has thrown me slightly I know she’s interested and if I do this again I need to make sure the ugly sisters don’t put in an appearance. 36 year old and a girl who’s 20 is this wrong?

Why does an expensive watch give you social proof?

Dude its all just a shit test, it doesn't need to affect you. If the girl is 20 and likes you and your way older so what? Whos leading here you or them?

I'm not disagreeing in fact thats exactly what I wanted to hear, but I suppose its just the way society sees it, I couldn't give a feck what people think about me but I really don't want to be classed as cradle snatcher. That would suck.

Oh the the watch thing is probably nothing it falls into the nice clothes, car bracket, that effect that women like when they feel they have someone successful, I forget the PUA phrase.

go for it, if she's offering it up.

Knave, mate, please stop it with the Facebook stuff. Seriously mate. Just stop it. I cringed my way through that whole report. It was horrible to read.

Grow a pair, and get out and approach girls in real life. The Facebook thing is just weird mate. Totally weird. Are you really surprised that some girls weren't impressed with a 36 year old bloke who chats up a 20 year old girl on Facebook? Are you actually surprised that they made jokes about you?

Stop doing this Facebook stuff, and get out and approach real women, in the real world. None of that was impressive. Mate whats impressive about sitting behind your keyboard chasing 100+ women across Facebook?

You know what Knave - you could post 100 detailed field reports on here of your experiences with all these girls you've added on Facebook, successful and failures. And then some newbie could come on here and post about a nervous as hell first night out, when he had never approached a girl before in his life, and all night only managed to croak through a single canned opener which bombed and left him feeling like a twat.

You know who'd get more respect from me? The newbie, simply because he's got the balls to fucking go and do it for real.

Please, I am actually begging you, STOP IT with this Facebook shite.

what watch was it?

In all fairness its not half as bad as you make out. I spend 20 minutes a day after work catching up with emails, trying to get telephone numbers and hitting new targets. Mostly the age range is from 25 – 30. Ashley slipped through the net because she looks older. The big 150 FB girls project scheduled for feb is a one off test of ‘openers’.

FB is good to me I’m getting just short of one phone number a week, for less than an hours work in the comfort of my own home.

I totally admit I left myself wide open when I realised she was so young. They pulled me to pieces felt like a fucking pedo.

Tell you what. I’ll make deal with you.

I’ll not mention facebook ever again. EVER. I’ll simply just document field reports if I feel other members would benefit or get something out of them.

As for respect, I seriously wouldn’t worry about that mate , I’m really not trying to gain anyones respect on here.


EDIT for FOX TAG Monaco blue dial which tends to peacock a bit more than the black

I've got chicks through facebook, msn, skype, language exchange websites etc. I wouldn't rule it out. I still like to get out there loads though.

Why are you still here? I thought that bird wanted to see you.

niceeeeeee

Going to have to disagree entirely with CovertOperation here, and say that the facebook stuff doesn't bother me in the slightest.

Isn't the art of PU about taking a complete stranger and converting them to a close? Who's to say how and where that should be done. Like Midas said, I've got birds through all forms of locations; bars, clubs, public transport, facebook, PlentyofFish, Match, mutual friends, bookshops, Lush Cosmetics and even Primark. I don't care where the start is, whether online or offline if the result is the same.

End of the day, she agreed to go out with you, someone 16 years her senior, and then when her friends bantered you about the age, you crumbled.
There's two ways you can approach the age gap - positively or negatively. My flatmate is best part of 30 (as am I) and he's currently diddling an 18 year old, and the age banter happens all the time. Like I might say "we're going to blah blah blah today - do you want to come, or do you need your parents to sign a permission slip first?"

If you make jokes out of it all and show that you're unshakable, then they'll just go with it I find. If they don't and they take it personally, then they're probably not the kind of people you want to be going for anyway.

Seems to me that she's still interested (though blowing her off as she left may go down negatively), and if I were you I'd say something along the lines of "I had fun last night, though it would be nice to see you again without your bodyguards" (a line I've used a couple of times, and they always find the bodyguards bit amusing), and then go from there.

Keep us updated fella