Faith, commitment and dedication - A journey of consistency
 

Hey guys, my name is Pete and I am a 28yo daygame newbie.

I'm based up North and I am going to start consistently daygaming!

A little bit of my background. When I was younger, I was somewhat social and was actually alright with talking to people. The thing is at 21, both of my parents died. Then I went to a very strong depressive stage that lasted from 21-26. Tbh, I had thoughts about offing myself but I thank God I never did it.

At 26, I moved from London to up north and started being a bit more social. I am currently studying at one of the universities. I got laid twice during my first year both were complete flukes. The girls lived in the flat underneath me and somehow, someway ending up hooking up with both girls on different days. They were just one and done, I was terrible at sex and basically didn't finish on both times. I was so drunk with both girls and they didn't call me back.

Covid started and I was stuck at home during my second year of study. This drove me almost crazy and I decided to do some daygame during the first lockdown.

I committed to approaching at least 1 girl a day for about 3 months. During those 3 months, I went on dates with 4 different girls I met doing daygame. I pulled all these girls back to my flat and my room but I didn't know how to escalate without alcohol and basically messed up at least 2 possible lays.

In my last month of daygame, I ended up meeting a Russian student while daygaming, we exchanged numbers and ended up going on 4 dates. On those 4 dates, we hooked up twice and fooled around on the other 2 dates.

I basically watched as many videos as I could on escalation.

Plus going out every day for 3 months, talking to people and being in the good weather really really boosted my mood up. I made a commitment to spend as little time as home as I could, I would just go out and do walking meditations. I would basically walk and keep my mind clear during the time. This helped me to be extremely relaxed when talking to people.

Two things that helped me so much was:

An eskimo kiss escalation that ToddV talked about in his product 'Daygame Mastery' (I think that's what it is called):
Play thumb wars.
After each round escalate a bit more.
Start with rubbing forehead.
Then second round, based on whether she's receptive ->
Rub noses and escalate into a quick kiss from there.

The concept of basically 2 steps forward and 1 step back when escalating. Whispering something in a girl's ear for a short period of time and then backing off to relaxing and laying back. Mixing up the different types of escalation, not just doing the same thing over and over again but of course being utterly respectful of the girl's boundaries and constantly gauging how she's responding to the escalation. If at any stage she shows any discomfort making sure to apologise, back off and going back to just joking around.

Well after the dates, I got lazy with daygame and thought 'I don't need to go out anymore!". I got needy and she stopped replying to my texts.

Writing this, feels like I am talking about a completely different person haha

Here I am again, restarting my daygame and hoping to get myself back out there.

I am basically restarting becoming social again and talking to people.
Right now my goal each day:
1. Talk to every single man or woman that I come across, talk to the first person I see whenever I come out of my house.
-Ask a question, make a comment on something interesting or offer a genuine compliment.
2. Talk to 5 women a day. 1 of these approaches should be a conversation over 2 mins.

For the first 3 months, I am not going to focus on collecting any numbers or any contact details.
I am just going to focus on talking to men/woman without any intention or trying to get anything. I have been doing daily meditation also.
I also want to commit to do approximately 6 hours of meditation a day. It really really helps me throughout my life.

Reiterate my goals:
1. Talk to every man or woman I see. First person I see as soon as I leave my house, I talk to.
2. Talk to at least 5 women a day. Even if it's just very short conversation.
3. One of these conversations have to be at least 2 mins in length.
4. No phone numbers or IG closes during these first 3 months. Just focus on talking to people with no intention or nervousness. Just chilling.
5. Meditate for 6 hours a day. Take the vibe I have when meditating. That feeling of contentment and not needing anything, take that feeling and use it when talking to others. Talking to other people from a place of contentment.

Thanks guys! Tomorrow is day one. This is a long term journey for me, an exercise really just to build my social skills and meet a great girlfriend.

Great stuff man!

It's cool how committed you are mate, i'm very curious how you're going to manage 6 hours of meditation per day!? Full on monk mode, are you not working atm?

Also would suggest to not stick hard to your rule of no closes although in general it's a good mindset to have. Don't miss out on the love of your life because of a hard and fast rule!

Thanks man, I appreciate the encouragement! :)

Thanks for the kind words man!

I haven't updated the FRs because I have been so busy with the release of software projects that I have been working on through summer. However this is just an excuse, I can always make time to go out and talk to people.

Right now I am studying a 3 year course. My course continues again in October. I saved money that I received during the year from Student Finance basically.

My free time usually consists of programming, studying software books and meditation/game.

You're absolutely right about not taking the rule of 'no closes' too seriously, thanks for that! I think got too focused on the whole not being attached to an outcome :)

Hi Luffy,
What you are doinv is great. Even though We are at different stage in oud life (I'm 44), your commitment inspires me. The only advise I would give you is to read personal development books. It does help me a lot. for the past four months, I read The concise laws of human nature (Robert Greene), The rational male Rollo Tomassi) and I am reading The game by Niel Strauss. All these books changed my life and I wish I would have read them when I was your age..
Your doing great buddy

Hi 99,

Thanks so much for the encouragement! I appreciate it :) All those books, I checked out briefly and I will give them a read in my free time :)

Alright guys, let's start with a report:

Over the last few weeks, I have:

1. Moved into a new student accommodation. I will stay in this accommodation all throughout my third and final year at university. This new accommodation is so close to the city centre and it's so easy to just go out and talk to girls. Plus if I ever have the feeling my breath isn't too fresh, I can just walk home and brush my teeth and go out again!

2. I have got a part time job. I only intend to do it, until my student loan comes in at the end of September. After which I will focus on studying.

3. I have started approaching again!

Ok so I have been going out for the last 2/3 days. The goal right now is just to get used to talking to people again and just being relaxed while doing it. Just getting used to talking to others.
Right now, it's going pretty chill. Got a few contact details, a few short conversation and a few long conversations. That's about it.

Let me tell you about this weird experience:
It's sunny outside and I'm walking down a hill. The sun is shining in my eyes so I don't really see to clearly people who are walking towards me. This will be important later.
I am just minding my own business and walking. All of a sudden, a woman appears right in front of me. She must have been walking towards me but with the sun in my eyes I didn't notice her whatsover. I almost walked right into her and had to swerve. She definitely noticed and looked kind of annoyed maybe, I'm not too sure.
Well we walk by one another and the conversation goes (I'm paraphrasing, this happened like 3 days ago):
Me: Man that was so awkward! (It was kind of funny especially the way I sidestepped)
Her: What was awkward?
Me: When someone's walking towards you and you don't notice so you have to shift to left/right
She bursts out laughing.
Her: I noticed the way you dodged me but I didn't want to say anything
We start talking, I find out way we go to the same uni and stuff like that.
She's walking up the hill and I'm walking down the hill.
I turn around and start walking up the hill with her.
Her: Weren't you walking down the hill
Me: Yeah but I'm gonna go Tesco and get a meal deal.
Her: Ok
-- I didn't do it smoothly whatsoever---
We continue talking and we get to Tesco and I am about to go in and get my meal deal.
You might not believe this, she actually asks me for my number.
I hand her my phone, she puts her number in my phone and then calls it.
We say our goodbyes and I go into Tesco.
Crazy stuff!

I have daygamed consistently for about 4 months in the past before this and in those 4 months of talking to on average 1-3 girls a day. I think only 3 or 4 times has a girl ever asked me first for my contact details. Looking back at those experiences, one thing that is common is that in all those times I was feeling good, just saying whatever was on my mind and not even thinking about getting the girls contact details. Man the key is to be like that all the time mannn.

We've been chatting and she's good looking but she takes ages to reply. I noticed when we were walking together that she is really confident and social. She was just talking to me as if she had known me her whole life. I am definitely sure I am just one of many, many guys that she is talking to but anyways. I went out again and I've been speaking to other girls and got a few numbers.

Right now, as I am in my final year of uni. This year I just want to focus on getting good at just talking calmly to anyone man or woman, no matter the circumstances. I dont want to focus too much on closing. The reason is, I have a remote software job lined up already and as soon as I graduate. I am moving to a place with a way cheaper Cost of Living and just gonna live nicely there and save my money to buy a house in the UK. I am building my daygame skills and being able to talk/approach people calmly so when I am in a new country, I won't have any issue being social.

Thanks all, I am going to update hopefully tomorrow!

Great stuff with progress Luffy.

As the Rational Male has been mentioned, you might want to check this thread out:
https://www.puaforums.co.uk/psycholo...o-tomalsi.html

Z

Thanks Dr Zed, I really appreciate the positive comments ������ It makes it so much easier to be consistent when others are supporting you :)

I started reading that book by Rollo Tomalsi, I had to take a break there's a lot to break down in it, wow. I will come back it to later ����

Not much to report gamewise, ain't done an approach in ages. Lifewise, I said before I got a new job. Right now just working tbh. Not a very exciting update :(

No probs,

Ultimately it's up to you what you read, though it's interesting to note that a number of "dating coaches" have reviewed the rational male and weigh up its pros and cons. Stein here mentioned Mark Manson's "models" as a more useful resource (I'm yet to read this).

Ideally the sooner you work on dating/game of some form, the better, even if it's just online dating. Still experience.

Are you meditating for 6 hours a day? I've heard of some folks meditating for 2 hours a day and that struck me as excessive, almost like they're trying to escape reality. There's no experience like the truth.

Z

Ah no I'm not meditating 6 hours a day right now haha, now I'm mainly spending most of my time at work

Lmao, check this out.
There's 2 girls that I used to hangout with in my old house. Never hooked up.
We see each other after like 4 months and we hangout with their friends.
I go shopping with them, me and 4 girls.
Then we go clubbing, me, 2 of my guy friends and 2 girls.
Then on the day after we hang out in my crib, me and 3 girls.

There's one girl that I really like, I ask her to hang out but she invites her girl friend.
I imply that we should just hang out by ourselves. She basically says no and then I ask her:
Me: Does your friend come to your dates too?
Her: I rarely if ever go on dates and she doesn't too hahahahaha
Me: Well let's go on your first date on Friday
Her: I don't want go on dates right now hahahaah
Me: Cool cool
Her: Hehe
Her: Btw
Her: We'll be free at 5pm at blah blah
Me: Cool cool
Me: Sooooo
Me: You're not interested in hanging out one on one?
Her: Well, I don't really hang out one on one but if we become friends there will be no problem
Me: Cool cool

Lmao, I got played. Wow, I suck with girls.

I've hung out with this girl about 3 times. She is just not interested.

Anyways, I am doing daygame again. Man, I am a complete beginner. I'm basically 29 and still suck with women, wtf man hahahahaa

Anyways, nowhere but up from here I guess

That sucks. With experience you’ll learn to read situations earlier as they have the same patterns. You’ll be able to tell with pretty good accuracy who is attracted, who isn’t and who is just trying to get free shit.

My advice is, if you aren’t certain make a move.

Actually make a move though. Hanging out then later texting “let’s hang out” is not a move. In this specific situation it is unlikely but I have been in situations where my not making a move has killed her attraction. You can’t do that. You gotta stop doing that, man.

Always make a move if you aren’t sure. Then you’ll have that as a reference experience that will help you to tell the difference in the future. If you feel odd when someone is talking to you, maybe they are lying. If you don’t find out whether they were or not you don’t know if that feeling means you are being lied to or not. Same with attraction.


Peace,

kowalski

Thanks Kowalski for this! Those words really helped me man. I was a bit sad earlier but you know what, I've determined that I'm gonna go out everyday and just put the work in to getting good with women. My mindset now is 'I would much rather get rejected than not get the reference experience'.

I have set some goals:
At least 5 approaches a day.
From these 5 approaches, aim to have 3 conversations that last over 2 mins.
These long sets are where I grow the most.
Try to do at least one very scary approach.

Hopefully be December, I would have gone on some dates hopefully man :cry::cry::cry::cry:

I went out today, did 7 approaches.

First one: Girl walking out of Tesco, as she walked out with her friend the alarm started ringing. I opened her with "Did you take something valuable" and went into a story about how something similar happened to me. It was ok, she was kinda shy and I ejected early.

Second one: Chinese girl, this was a pretty long conversation, I got her number but man I didn't eject from the set properly. Like we were in the grocery aisle shopping and talking. Then I foolishly went early to pay for my stuff and left her to go shopping. I paid for my stuff and I was in two minds:

Should I wait around cos the conversation was flowing and I got her number but didn't really say goodbye/maybe it could turn into an insta date?
Or should I just leave with a number from a conversation that was good but the number might flake.

In the end I was indecisive and I came off needy, I was at the door and she was kinda surprised and then I knew.... I had ffed up hahahahahahahaha

Asked her out over text, she didn't reply but I would be honestly surprised if she does reply.

Third one: English girl, Alison, she was pretty and was laughing at my jokes. I got nervous, talked fast and ejected early.

Fourth one: Chinese girl, no idea of name, she was alright but she told she had a boyfriend early. The conversation was actually flowing but she ended the conversation early. I moved on.

Fifth one: Black girl with a sickkkkkkkkkkkkk jacket. Honestly if I saw that jacket at a shop, I would buy it. I got talking to her but I wasn't that attracted so I ejected from the set.

Sixth and seventh ones: English girls, short sets and not much to write about them.

Yeah man, I went out and talked to some girls. Now the main thing is doing the same thing tomorrow.

Thanks guys and Kowalski for all the support, I deffo needed it. Upwards and onwards!

Tomorrow I will work on:
Talking slower and just being a bit more relaxed.
I will try do 20 mins meditation as well, did 10 mins today.

Hey guys, me again!

I went out today and did 5 approaches. Did 1 mins meditation tho :( I will do some more before I go to sleep.

1st approach, English girl. I think, it was short.

Ones I remember:
Girl from Taiwan, I complimented her on her shoes. Then I talked about how I used to buy lots of shoes but moved onto buying lots of jumpers. Conversation flowed and we exchanged numbers. Spoke to her on whatsapp, when I got home and we've arranged a date for this Saturday.

Beautiful black girl. Man this girl was hot. Lmao I was nervous and I didn't do the approach properly but I did it. It was kinda smooth but I got nervous and was tense. It was actually ok.

Really hot indian girl. If I could construct a woman, this girl would be it. Man I walked by her, she looked at me a bit but they were other people there and it was so intimidating. This was an aisle and they were other people there. First time I walked by her, she kinda turned and I went to pick up bread. On the third time, I was just like f it. I went up to her and it was actually ok, she held eye contact and was smiling and like asking questions but man I was nervous. I was so nervous that I wasn't even horny because she was so hot. When I said goodbye, within myself I was like, man that took so much balls. It was so brave, like honestly. I was just so happy that I did it.

Did 3 more approaches but yh.

Wow, grew a lot today. One thing I am starting to see is that, my sex life is completely determined by me. If I go out, put myself in a good mood, talk to loads and loads of girls with a calm, relaxed and good vibe and leading towards sex in a non-needy way, I will get laid. I just need to be consistent and GET OUT OF MY HOUSE to meet NEW girls and not obsess over old ones.

Yeah man, thanks guys!

Nice stuff, a result. Keep at it, if you get some success it should snowball, assuming you don't suffer any sudden traumas.

Hey guys, I got work in about 20 mins. I will write 2 posts for each day.

Hey Dr_Zed! Thanks for the comment man :) This journey of self improvement and dating is so much easier with other guys helping, thanks dude :)

Ok Day 1 - Friday 8th October.

Did 3 approaches, man I should really write the reports on the day otherwise I have to think to remember.

What I do remember is that I was doing the approaches just to do them, so I didn't really care and the girls could feel that and so they didn't really go anywhere.

Ooo yeah I remember now, the girls that friendzoned me. I went out with them to an anime store as friends. It was actually ok, I actually don't mind being friends with girls as long as I am meeting other girls who are interested in me at least sexually. It's when I don't put myself out there and meet new girls that's when it becomes bad hahahahaha

I suppose it was good practice in leading, man it was kinda cool. I would say "Ok, we are going here" and they would just follow. Pretty crazy when you think about it.
Also yeah, my manager called me in to work a shift unexpectedly so that cut into my approaching new girls time but NO EXCUSES. I could have done more, only did 3 but at least I kept the momentum up.

Ok, onto today! Went on the date, with the cute taiwanese girl.

Man, she wore a mask all throughout the date. Maybe I should have asked her to take it off, I should have to be honest at least I should have phrased it as a game. Oh my days, I couldn't kiss her. It was pretty fun but I kinda cheated, I took like 3 shots before the date. I was in a pretty talkative and just free flowing mood. The date went ok, we walked around and then went to a museum. She was receptive to my physical touch, sat down and we played with each other's hands, hugged but I couldn't kiss her. Ah man, anyways.

Check this out:
We had been on the date for approximately 2-3 hours, the museum was closing. I live in the centre so no matter where we go in the centre, I live about 5 mins away. I say I need to go pee, she follows, I just keep talking and we end up in my flat. I take her in, tell her to sit down and I go to the bathroom and pee. I put some music on while im in the bathroom, I come out and tell her she can change the song and she tells me nah she has to go.
I'm like cool, we walk out and we go grocery shopping, we hug, part ways. She says 'until next time' and I'm like sure whenever just let me know.
Basically while we were sitting in the museum talking, I tried to suggest another date next week she said she couldn't do it. I didn't care, I just said whatever. So yeah, hopefully we meet up again.

Things I could improve:
I should have playfully made her take off her mask. Honestly, I should have then I could have kissed her. I think I had a lot of investment, she was ok with my physical touch and she was following me pretty compliantly.
NO ALCOHOL - Come on dude, let's try and at least go on dates completely sober.

So yeah, I met another Chinese girl in the supermarket got her phone number and it seems solid. Hopefully we can arrange a date.

Also lmao, I forgot to write about this:
There's a bunch of girls and 2 gay guys at work. One of the gay guys comes to me and says his friend likes me (one of the girls, not the guy hahahahahahhahaha).
I could kind of tell this girl likes me because man it was just like she was a bit too eager to talk to me. It was actually kind of creepy/weird to be that into me without really knowing me, I kind of see how a girl would run away from that type of guy.
Guys, I've got to go work. I'll finish this up a bit later

EDIT:
So basically there was a big group of the gay guys and the girls. One of the guys said "You know P likes you", P starts giggling, it's like something out of a playground. Anyways later on in the day, I get P's number, we chat and I've asked out to grab a quick coffee. We will see what her response is, thanks guys! That's me out for tonight

Only did 2 approaches yday nonsense, did do 20 mins meditation so that's a win at least

Today did 3, at least I did them. Did 40 mins mediation though!

Did like 6 approaches today, only really one of them hooked. Ah well unto the next reference experiences.
Tomorrow I am going work on:
Being calm and just talking.
Talk slower
Sometimes I have the habit of putting on a performance. That needs to stop.

Hey guys, did like 6 approaches today. I was relaxed and they went ok. Got some good reference experiences and the sets hooked.

Good experience: got the contact details of a girl and arranged to meet her next Tuesday so should be ok.

Things I am going to work on:
Remember NEVER open from the back.
Remember be congruent with how you really feel. Don't try to act.
Just say and talk based on what you really think and how you really feel.

Things I did well:
You were pretty congruent and started talking.

One set that stands out:
Girl walking towards me in shopping aisle.
I open her with a comment on her clothing. Conversation starts flowing and she's asking questions.
It was just flowing and got her number.
She said something like 'It's good to be confident'. Again, it just shows how important it is to meet new women and not over invest in the OLD ones.

Hey guys, went out 4 days. Did 1 approach a day.

Today, I went out did about 10 approaches.

Got my first fake number hahahahahah I knew the set was a bit off and it wasn't solid tbh.

In other news, I got a date with the girl I met in the last post on Friday.
Got another date tomorrow with a different girl that I met today.
Got a date on Wednesday with a girl I met 2 days ago.

So yeah, let's go. Good reference experiences and just building momentum.

Also went clubbing with the girl that friendzoned me and her friend. She was more physical with me, hugging and she tickled me without initiaiting. To be honest, I am gonna chill with her. It's so obvious that I am chasing her and I don't really like that. I will post snaps as I go on my dates, then I will probs message her on Friday.

Your sustained effort in this reminds me of myself circa 2014/2015 (with a few more short bursts here and there since).

Keep it up, man. Have you tried "you look fun to talk to"?

Hey Dan, thanks so much for commenting! I am willing to try anything tbh, I will give it a shot when I go out tomorrow?

I went out with the girl from yday. Man we walked, rode around on our bikes and she came back to my flat and we started drinking.

I tried to escalate and kiss her but she wasn't into it. I think I shouldn't have escalated but man, she came to my crib and we were drinking. It's just hard to not escalate in that situation.

Ah man, whenever I go on a date with a girl and bring her back to my crib. If I don't hook up with her I always feel like I failed, which I know is not true. I think after getting friendzoned by those other girls, I am just so wary of over investing into a specific woman.

Is it really normal to hook up with girls on a first date? Man I just feel like I'm rushing it. I'm so not used to it at all.

Anyways I have another date tomorrow but she hasn't confirmed. I am kinda happy, after my date I only was able to do 2 approaches. If I don't go on a date tomorrow, I will make sure to approach at least 10 women. Anyways thanks for listening guys, appreciate it :)

I was tempted to say "don't," but on the other hand I'd like to see someone actually pull it off.

Yes. There's not really a golden rule here other than doing less things "wrong" than right.

You are doing really great out there. It's inspirational.

It's not abnormal to hook up on the first date, but don't worry about it. If you don't think it's already going that way maybe don't take them to your flat.

You didn't say what else happened earlier so I'm gonna guess maybe nothing. When did you first go to kiss her? Ideally kiss your date when you meet up, classic gentlemen's hello - hand on her waist and a peck on the cheek. Take her hand when you walk or offer her to hook your elbow. If you're sat talking, touch her leg when you tell a joke or when she does (lol that won’t happen girls aren't funny). Etc. etc.

Basically be physical from the beginning.

She is on a date with you, so unless she's evil she's interested. I don't think you got friendzoned so much as you just didn't make it comfortable and smooth... and maybe she won't give you another chance and maybe she will.

Try make a move earlier than goodbye at the tram stop or already at or out front of one of your homes. Especially inside your home she will feel pressure that maybe this could escalate quicker than she would want it to. What if she doesn’t like your kiss then what is she gonna do? How is she gonna leave? What if then you are stubborn or are you gonna be angry or manipulative? She doesn’t know, she doesn’t know you at all. It really is a lot of pressure for a girl. If you are already kissing and then go home together it's a whole different thing.


Peace,

kowalski

Thanks so much for writing this out Kowalski, it's much appreciated! I am going on a date this Friday and I will try be physical right from the beginning.

Did about 5 approaches yday, got 1 snapchat. Spoke to her, will hopefully arrange date next week.

Did about 8 approaches today, didn't really hook well. Till the end and I spoke to the sexiest Spanish I have probably ever seen. The set hooked and I got her contact details.

BUT MAN i messed it up after getting the details.

Me: Hey Maria, cool meeting you today.
Me: Here's another bit of Spanish I remember
Me: Que Lo Que Mamiiiiiiiii :D :D :D <--- This is like catcalling in Dominica, I shouldn't have said it, it's just so low value.
Her: Hahahaha that's so Dominican

Plus on my snapchat, the video I had was kind of ridiculous. It was a video of me and my friend we were chilling and then I start laughing a bit randomly at the end.

Yeah man I shouldn't have said that, she was replying pretty quickly before and now she's taking a while to reply.
Someone told me that 'When you try to specifically hit on a girl it doesn't work', I know that yet I still sent that stupid message. It's just so annoying to put all the work in, go out, spend time travelling to different shops and just mess it up like that, Jesus.

Anyways, got to hope she replies and I will just play it completely chill.

Tomorrow is another day, thanks guys

Yoooooooooooooooooooooo Kowalski!! I followed what you said, bro I went out with this girl I met, I don't even know when I met her but it was fun at the end. I hugged her, I am not gonna lie I took a few shots before the date, I know I have to stop this but man I had so much fun. Now I am blasting music.

Yeah I started off the date physically hugging her and shit, then we went to a coffee shop and I was just talking, then after coffee shop we went to a bar and I got a drink.

Lmaoooo so now I am in my element, we started drinking and we play some silly thumb war game, basically after first round we touch foreheads after second round we touch noses and i use this as opportunity to make out heavily. She's into it and giggling and shit, I ask her to come to my crib but she say something like "What about if I am trying to play hard to get", I am drunk so I don't have a good retort for this. I just smile cos when I am drunk I smile and laugh a lot, we keep making out and she's laughing. I walk her to accommodation, we make out again and she says "I should text her". So yeahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh that's me.


Wow guys!!!! I made out with a girl and she loved it!!, Oh My Dayssssssssssssss. Physical contact guys! Yay! Thanks to Kowalski and everyone. Man I will message her sometime, I think I am going out tonight so yeah I will definitely remember to snap of that. Man yeahhhhhhhh, hahahhaah I am happy that I got some physical contact in

BUT WHO KNOWS EH

Maybe she blocks me and never responds to my messages again :D :D :D :D :D Ah welllllllllllllllllllllll, I still got a great reference experience.

Lmao can't make this shit up. She literally texted me "So I mean I had the best time today but I think we'd be better as mates, I hope that's okay".

Ah well unto the next one.

Do I feel like crying? Nope....maybe just a bit..... I am gonna find a pack of tissues :( :( :( :(

On reflecting here's where I fucked up:

I kept saying "Come to my crib" she was like I got to go to a dinner with my friends. I asked twice and the first time she said "what about if I wanted to play hard to get"

I should have said:
Life and uni is way too short for that and then gone in for a kiss.

I SHOULD HAVE LEAD HARDER

I kept asking her "Come to my crib", I should have said "We're going to play cards, we're going to my crib"
OR
"I don't like the toilets here, I am going to go pee at my crib, let's go"

My crib is like 2 mins from the bar.

and then I should have started walking because honestly while we were making out she was grabbing the top of my leg like near my crotch. I should have led harder obviously not forcing her physically just leading myself and she can follow or not. That's way better than asking her and waiting for her to lead.

Because looking at it now it was all token resistance, she never checked the time of her supposed dinner, she was so compliant, making out, holding hands and all that stuff.

Man I kept asking her to come rather than leading her. Oh my days wow. I was just trying to be polite and non needy.

Wow ok, I know what I did wrong now.

Been doing 1 a day for about 2/3 days now, I need to go out there and hit it hard.

If you had been a bit more subtle she may have come home with you but it might have resulted in that after whatever happened she still wouldn't want to see you again. There's no need to be pushy.

At the end she doesn't want to see you again and you knew already that it had ended a bit flat, that's how you predicted correctly what would happen next. Trust those feelings.

My last post was telling you to reduce the pressure by starting physical contact early before it gets awkward. Now you are trying to use the same ideas to apply more pressure. I know you wanna get laid a bunch but chill, look at how far you've come already. You'll be fine this is all gonna work out. You don't have to become a manipulator. This girl liked you.

If a girl says she can't stay out because she has to do something else, be chill about that. She has a life that has nothing to do to with some boy she just met. Just keep hanging out and having fun, maybe she'll cancel her possibly fake appointment maybe she won't, it doesn't matter. She could have been in your life for a while.

Extra advice: Don't let kissing in public get too raunchy and always be the one who breaks the kiss. You don't want to get them to horny on a barstool, is a bad idea and super adolescent. And being the one who breaks is a little tease. This is what "leave them wanting more is all about". And it preserves both her and your dignity, which she will give you extra points for subconsciously.


Peace,

kowalski

Kowalski, thank you so much for the advice man. I had written a reply earlier when I posted the thanks but my laptop turned off suddenly.
I hear your advice so much man, I just kinda knew that she wouldn't call back, I don't even know how but yhhh I just kinda knew. I let myself on the date get a bit too horny and too excited and I shouldn't have kissed her so much in the bar to be honest as you said. Man yh I really should have chilled out :( :( :(

Thank you so much for the encouragement dude, it really really really helps. Going out each day, coming home writing the mini reports is so much easier knowing that others are reading and encouraging. Just want to say thanks for that. I will chill out, hang out with these girls and just focus on having fun. I do wanna get laid but I definitely need to just chill out and enjoy the whole thing as you've said.

I went out today and did 6 approaches, I got the number of a chinese girl on my course. I sent her a message and she replied, I asked her to grab a quick coffee and now I'm just waiting for a response.

I should have a date on Friday, with a girl I met almost 2 weeks ago and I will focus on just having fun and chilling out with the girl.

Anytime I go out and just do 1 approach I hate it hahahahaha so tomorrow gonna go hard again and hopefully this time do about 10

Hey guys did 6 approaches, got the contact details of one chick. I asked her out for coffee she said yes but then she mentioned she's off to Ireland for 2 weeks so ah well. I hung out with my friends, 2 of em girls. Man I just recently discovered about teasing girls and how much they love it, I think i was a bit overboard with one of the girls. She said "why are you always so hard on me" I felt pretty bad, basically we hung out drunk and played cards and just bantered, I am going to apologise and just chill with her. Anyways guys got a busy weekend, I'm out Friday and Saturday with friends and it's a mixed group so should be good, Ive got a date tomorrow with a girl from an old.workplace. I'm really not bothered about the date, I don't find her that attractive but ah well I can post us doing something fun on my Snapchat. Thanks guys!

6 approaches, didn't really hook, new reference experiences but just kinda shitty

Went out 2 days in a row, man it was crazy. Didn't get laid thought I had pulled but alas it wasn't so hahahahahahahaha

Anyways went out properly for the first time today to do daygame, did like 5 approaches. Got the number of a hot chick, we'll see if she responds and comes out to a short coffee date. Apart from that got a second date on Friday with the indian chick i met 2 weeks ago, i will try and pull her back to my crib after exploring the lights in the city.

Also as I am doing more approaches, I am starting to realise that all I need to get girls is:
Confidence
Being able to make myself laugh/have fun
Complete non-neediness.

I am seeing it bit by bit each day, I just gotta keep going out and staple it within me.

Thanks guys!

Dude, I've read some of your lig, and can I say out refreshing it is to see someone taking action and actyally doing a log on getting girls and not on 101 other random bits of pseudo Internet or career based bullshit.

I'm going to be starting my own soon, with a recap of lay reports from the past.

Keep it going, and don't fucking settle, no matter what.

Trooper

Gay.


Peace,

kowalski