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Default Filming my self speed talking... - 13-11-2010, 01:58 AM

So I went out tonight with my 2 of my 5 wings (you see St Albans is getting the treatment.. hint hint )

Its become apparent to me that over the last month Im staying in set for ages... but just not getting attraction, hence my flakes...

One of my new wings has been gaming for 3 years and is good at getting attraction, but is in a relationship and doesn't come out often.

Another one of my wing has bad AA, but when I open and introduce him to the set, they fall in love with him, as hes only 19 and a "cutey" as the girls call him...

So in order to try and solve the issues we are both having.This evening on our sarge session, we covertly recorded our sets and its very interesting to see how our game is, and each of us have different strengths and weaknesses...

Now the 3 things that stuck out for me

1.The Speed and hecticness of my voice.... im like a machine gun... firing questions at them... admittedly they are not interview questions, but are along the lines off cold reading....

"so who's the naughty one, whos the sensible one then ?"

"so you're the school teacher, and you're the accountant ??

"so did you choose to be the teacher, or did you parents"

now this is what is keeping me in set, as ive hundreds of questions, and I can stay in set for quite a long time, atl east over 30 mins...

problem is.... its not creating attraction and im machine gunning them out like a dick...my experienced wing, says this is calibration and will come...

The more interesting part of it... playing it back...I opened a 5 set and sorted out the mother hen, by putting her in her place...

The minute I did that, you could see I was getting huge IOWs from 2 of the others, the mother hen saw this, and started blocking them from me, and started negging me,to try and get back the value I took off her..

Meanwhile the other 2 moved in closer to me,to try and get my attention, by throwning HUGE IOWS.

Now do you think I saw this happening in the frame... no fucking chance,it was shocking seeing it on camera afterwards, and seeing how I let 2 good HB7/8s slip away,as I was machine gunning away with the leader of the group, who i quite liked... I was completely unaware of what has unfolding in front of me, you can hear my wing who is filming it, giving a commentary on it....

This is where my experienced wing of 3 years says calibrations comes in...

2. Im ever ever so slightly leaning in... and pecking (but its slight)

3.As im machine gunning, my hands are all over the place making gestures...

so if anyone has any advice/links on how to stop or train myself not too machine gun speed talking, and how to "relax" in set Id love to know.

numbers 2 and 3 im not so worried about, its number 1, I need to get fixed...

thanks tebbs...


dont worry theres another six around the corner...

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Default 13-11-2010, 02:10 PM

Your speed talking is high energy and cocky-funny.

But can be too much of a good thing to exclusively stick to high energy and cocky-funny.

Mix it up with KINO - brush her arm occasionally when you talk, or catch her gaze for a moment while putting your hand on her arm to emphasize a point, yada yada...

Mix it up with PAUSES, SILENCES, and if as it was already going well then one of the birds will naturally fill the SILENCE and say something...

Work towards getting one of the birds you want isolated away from the five-set... things much easier 1-1.

Then can mix it up with some PLAYFUL SEXUAL BANTER said with a smile.

Also, when I had a fidget / hand gestures problem, I used to keep my hands in my jacket pocket.


Change some of these questions to STATEMENTS that say something about your personal opinions, interests, personality.


Like a big statement, slightly controversial in a cheeky way... errr as an example of the pattern... like I last week I was saying , "I had such an issue with the TOILET attendant here --- the one here was FORCE-feeding me handwash. I probably smell of anti-bacterial rose handwash now. What a nightmare - dunno about you, I just can't stand these toilet attendants."

...this slightly controversial statement will definitely lead them to say something. After that, could have "So, is there an African man in the ladies toilets?"


Good on you opening a five set and keeping them interested.


Wicked.

But your wings sound a bit lame, you need real men in there to help you out with your large set. You open the big group, but in a while you do motion to a wing to do that classic "where is Michelle" move you promote, to get one of your lame-ass St Albans wings in there to assist. Get wings not ruddy filmmakers!
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Default I recommend swing cat this dude is good. - 13-11-2010, 02:25 PM

You can find it on the net i got his audio downloaded for free also mystery which is not as good and ross jeffries mr hypnoisis pure genious when you get them to the bedroom the women have amazing orgasms one said that was the best fucking fuck ive ever had i got it all on my ipod and im getting results get the swing cat if you can he seriously raised my level with his stuff.Y
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So I went out tonight with my 2 of my 5 wingsour approach will vastly improve may i say try not to use the hands to much and move like a pimp not fidget speak suductively and body language is hugely important as well. Its become apparent to me that over the last month Im staying in set for ages... but just not getting attraction, hence my flakes...

One of my new wings has been gaming for 3 years and is good at getting attraction, but is in a relationship and doesn't come out often.

Another one of my wing has bad AA, but when I open and introduce him to the set, they fall in love with him, as hes only 19 and a "cutey" as the girls call him...

So in order to try and solve the issues we are both having.This evening on our sarge session, we covertly recorded our sets and its very interesting to see how our game is, and each of us have different strengths and weaknesses...

Now the 3 things that stuck out for me

1.The Speed and hecticness of my voice.... im like a machine gun... firing questions at them... admittedly they are not interview questions, but are along the lines off cold reading....

"so who's the naughty one, whos the sensible one then ?"

"so you're the school teacher, and you're the accountant ??

"so did you choose to be the teacher, or did you parents"

now this is what is keeping me in set, as ive hundreds of questions, and I can stay in set for quite a long time, atl east over 30 mins...

problem is.... its not creating attraction and im machine gunning them out like a dick...my experienced wing, says this is calibration and will come...

The more interesting part of it... playing it back...I opened a 5 set and sorted out the mother hen, by putting her in her place...

The minute I did that, you could see I was getting huge IOWs from 2 of the others, the mother hen saw this, and started blocking them from me, and started negging me,to try and get back the value I took off her..

Meanwhile the other 2 moved in closer to me,to try and get my attention, by throwning HUGE IOWS.

Now do you think I saw this happening in the frame... no fucking chance,it was shocking seeing it on camera afterwards, and seeing how I let 2 good HB7/8s slip away,as I was machine gunning away with the leader of the group, who i quite liked... I was completely unaware of what has unfolding in front of me, you can hear my wing who is filming it, giving a commentary on it....

This is where my experienced wing of 3 years says calibrations comes in...

2. Im ever ever so slightly leaning in... and pecking (but its slight)

3.As im machine gunning, my hands are all over the place making gestures...

so if anyone has any advice/links on how to stop or train myself not too machine gun speed talking, and how to "relax" in set Id love to know.

numbers 2 and 3 im not so worried about, its number 1, I need to get fixed...

thanks tebbs...
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Default 13-11-2010, 02:32 PM

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You can find it on the net i got his audio downloaded for free also mystery which is not as good and ross jeffries mr hypnoisis pure genious when you get them to the bedroom the women have amazing orgasms one said that was the best fucking fuck ive ever had i got it all on my ipod and im getting results get the swing cat if you can he seriously raised my level with his stuff
Piers147, thanks for providing Tebbs with that example "sentence" of how NOT to communicate
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Default 13-11-2010, 03:08 PM

How did you covertly record your sets?

I think that I suffer from a lot of the same problems as yourself, with the fast talking and the like. I haven't solved it yet though.

For me not being able to relax in set partly comes from tenseness from my posture.
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Default 13-11-2010, 03:23 PM

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tenseness from my posture
Zed, it's Alexander technique to sort that out

I did one lesson (one hour) in London, was surprising the effect, meant to do some more but place only open 9-5 M-F so souldn't fit it in.

You learn stuff about how to fully relax and ultimately stand taller by one or two inches.

Go on Zed, get yer posture all sorted. Ranges from £40 to £75 an hour, depending on the experience of the teacher....
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Default 13-11-2010, 03:52 PM

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How did you covertly record your sets?

I think that I suffer from a lot of the same problems as yourself, with the fast talking and the like. I haven't solved it yet though.

For me not being able to relax in set partly comes from tenseness from my posture.
we have a GOOD QUALITY video pen thing which one of guys used on us.

we just used it the once to see what we look like in set, it was quite surprising...

the wings are good, we have a mixed ability group of 5... we are a working progress group

on a separate note , ive also thought of taking st johns wort to calm the fuck down before going out...

so tonight, im going to try and slow down by taking pauses and breathes, while doing the triangle eyes / nose /mouth thing..

I tried it on my wing last night and my speech slowed down quite a bit


dont worry theres another six around the corner...

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Default 13-11-2010, 04:46 PM

Piers147. Apparently holding your hands together behind your back is a power gesture. It's the opposite of having them folded in front of you. If you have a drink in your hand hold it low, not at your chest. Stand with feet shoulder width apart. If you are sitting, you can steeple your fingers and keep you hands away from your face at all times. Politicians are trained to do this stuff. I started forcing myself to do all these things. After three weeks it became a new habit and would be harder to not do it now. I also found that something inside me changed along with the new body language. I feel much more relaxed and confident. It is really easy for me to open sets now and the sets respond well.
As for speech you can practice by reading poetry, recording it and playing it back to yourself. You should be reading slowly and clearly and pausing for dramatic effect in the middle of a sentence, never at the end of one. When all this becomes habit you will automatically be more relaxed in set.
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Default 14-11-2010, 04:34 PM

yeah, I'm starting to think that my sticking point may be that I am a self obsessed cunt.
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Default 14-11-2010, 05:49 PM

Woah. That's being a bit harsh on yourself there Midas.
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