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Zed · 23-08-2010, 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by captain_freedom

Hi Guys,
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So now I moved onto the qualification part
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ME: You know, you're a very attractive girl.....but its a saturday and there's load of beautiful women out tonight. So you got to have more going for you than just your looks. Tell me something interesting you?

HB: Ummm
Me: come on this is not a difficult question, there must be something about you that's cool.
HB: ummm no not really
ME: ok you're not doing it for me, your cute but seem quite boring.

shortly after these girls had finished their fags and said we're going back inside now then left.

Now obviously there's no point in rewarding your target for not coming up with something to say for herself but then just constainly negging doesnt seem to work either.

One of my thoughts was to imediataly go onto another thread:
"OMG that sucks I cant believe you cant think of something.... Oh that reminds me blah blah blah" (Next thread)

or moved onto a k-close routine as another form of qualification question.
"ok lets try something else, on a scale of 1-10 how much of a good kisser are you?

How would you guys better dealt with this situation?

I've actually used this material, and been faced with this response about 10 times. NOT ONCE has this question worked for me. The reason why it doesn't work: Because I haven't yet built enough comfort. You are in exactly the same situation.

When you ask the question you are issuing a direct compliance test to the girl. A direct IOI. It comes across as you've noticed their looks, and nothing else about them.

When they don't answer, or say, "There's nothing else, I'm boring" (In a confident manner) They are refusing to comply with your test. If you are following the M3 model you should give an IOD then go back allllllllll the way to A2 where you DHV yourself.

This is a good response: "OMG that sucks I cant believe you cant think of something.... Oh that reminds me blah blah blah" (Next thread)
It keeps the conversation flowing, and generates interest.

If you still want to use this question, then rephrase it as a less strong compliance test. Something like: You look interesting. (Then wait for them to validate you)

I've actually stopped using this question now, it doesn't fit into any of my sequences, routines, or general personality.

Phil · 23-08-2010, 04:42 PM

u dont do it like a question... its a statement...

see if you can have her know ur that type of guy

just say. u wanna know somethin... i meet so many good lookin girls, but its findin someone who i conect with, that little bit special is so difficult... looks are important but personality makes the person

then just move on... u dont need her to qulify or any pua bulshit

ur just makin it clear thats the type of guy u r... her ego will wanna live up to it anyway

Phil · 23-08-2010, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by kowalski

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Phil,
It is a bit weird that you said that PUAs write crap advice to fill books, then gave him some equally crap advice about specific shit to say and why. How is that any different than the shit Mystery gives people to say?

kowalski

Coz i was gonna say just tell her to move but on paper its shit advice coz he would end up soundin like a prik... but i do personally move girls into a position where i feel dominant as he mentioned... but i just say..."hold on a min, Move im gettin in there"

rocknrolla · 23-08-2010, 09:43 PM

I would have said something like, well if you can think of anything then come and find me; then walked off and talked to a shit load more girls.

Phil · 23-08-2010, 09:49 PM

i personaly dont think these QUALIFIER quesitons work... i just think girls remember guys who made them think & laf

tebbs · 24-08-2010, 08:46 AM

yes...

myself and freedom (he's my wing) have had this discussion many times before and ive told him to stop using this mystery method american shit in English chav towns,but buddy you dont listen !!! we are not getting attraction!! its too complex for them...

I think from saturday night we have a DEFINITIVE answer it doesnt work on crawley chav chicks..

I reckon we should just open with "Hello your hot, lets fuck, see you at 2am..." we would have more luck... saying that though Bar Med tonight ? Im not giving up on Crawley yet !!!

aofelix · 24-08-2010, 09:56 AM

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Originally Posted by tebbs

yes...

myself and freedom (he's my wing) have had this discussion many times before and ive told him to stop using this mystery method american shit in English chav towns,but buddy you dont listen !!! we are not getting attraction!! its too complex for them...

I think from saturday night we have a DEFINITIVE answer it doesnt work on crawley chav chicks..

I reckon we should just open with "Hello your hot, lets fuck, see you at 2am..." we would have more luck... saying that though Bar Med tonight ? Im not giving up on Crawley yet !!!

i personally think you guys have it wrong. IMO any girl will answer the question what makes you special. i don't know a girl in real life who wouldn't answer it.

the problem is the way mystery's phrased it, its a pretty deep question and a lot of people when they go out, are there to have fun and not explain themselves to strangers. if you don't have a lot of sexual chemistry built up so that she feels the need to prove herself to you, she won't bite.

tebbs · 24-08-2010, 10:07 AM

ME: You know, you're a very attractive girl.....but its a saturday and there's load of beautiful women out tonight. So you got to have more going for you than just your looks. Tell me something interesting you?

HB: Ummm
Me: come on this is not a difficult question, there must be something about you that's cool.
HB: ummm no not really
ME: ok you're not doing it for me, your cute but seem quite boring.

This is the problem me and freedom are getting...

you use a neg like that, and she thinks "arrogant fucker, thinks hes clever, im dumb,so Ill go find me a dumb chav to fuck"

Im think this is why I think negs dont work in our town

Loke · 24-08-2010, 10:26 AM

The thing is, Mystery has a lot of rules and stuff about what to say when, so you can't just grab something out of it and use it willy nilly. So to use a qualifier like that you need to have a certain comfort level built, the system also has rules on what to do IF she responds like that.

tebbs · 24-08-2010, 02:43 PM

I agree loke, I was there at the time winging him and there just wasnt the "vibe" going on, but I have to hand it to Freedom, he approaches the hottest "hardest" chicks...

I never seen a guy leg it down the street after chicks like freedom does... shame the chicks are a bit thicko most of the time