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Default First Night out Sarging in London - 06-07-2010, 09:32 PM

Ok so this weekend I met up with some real life PUAs and went sarging for the first time, woo hoo! Here's how it went:

Right so I left work drinks on Friday about 7 to go meet with a few guys off this forum. I didn't quite know what to expect, and was both very excited and nervous about the unknown. I was a bit worried that I hadn't pre-rehearsed any openers or routines or anything, but I thought fuck it lets just go see what its like. I can just watch them in action if need be.

We met in The White Horse in Covent Garden and immediately 2 of my fears were quased. These guys didn't seem like a) arrogant pricks or b) weirdos. No, they seemed like regular guys who I would met up for a drink with in normal circumstances.

We had a drink there and went on to The Roadhouse. We all went for a look around separately to see what it was like (that sounds very militant - it wasn't though). I passed a hen party and said 'Hey I like your hat' to the hen. I then got speaking to them for a bit, interacting mostly with the only semi-fit one out of the lot. They had been to see Dirty Dancing so I think I was making jokes about that. Can't really remember. I was also joking about how this was my 1st night out in 4 years, which The Maxx (who joined us for a bit), later said he wasn't sure about, but I thought it was quite cocky funny the way I was doing it.

I then noticed another hen party and commented how their hen party seemed better cos they all have matching hats. I then turned around and said 'hey I'm going to talk to you girls for a bit because your hen party seems cooler than theirs' (so that both parties could hear). I then joked around some more and tried on a hat too (seems to be a running theme here). The only half fit ones on the group were a bit unresponsive so I went to talk to some of the PUAs who had now turned up. There were also a few scattered around the clubs in 'sets', which I thought was pretty cool. It suddenly felt real and satisfyingly not scary! It was also funny that this was going on in the club and I felt quite superior only we knew about it.

I chatted to the PUAs for a bit and then returned to my 1st set, which was abit silly really and I think I just did for safety. Anyways it was fun and I still quite fancied one of them (the others were all a bit older and 'well worn' to say the least). However, here comes my 1st problem - I stayed in way too long!! Yes ladies (any here?) and gentlemen I discovered this weekend I suffer from a condition I have coined 'reverse AA'. This is when I can't or won't let myself get out of a conversation! I was so pleased that my AA was almost non-existent this weekend (its not always believe me!!), but this reverse AA was my 1st sticking point! My friends have taken the piss out of me for this before too. I think its because a) I'm naturally very polite and don't feel comfortable leaving a social situation and b) I feel safer in this conversation than going out looking for new 'friends' (hence reverse AA).

And then after wasting way too much time on this set I learn she is married (or at least wants me to think she is!). Balls, the girl I've wasted like fucking ages on and only slightly fancy is married! Grrrr. This does help the reverse AA though!

I then leave and meet Cefai from here. He is very cool and tells me to go open a set of 2 girls. I go up and say 'hey I can't tell if you girls are coming or going. make your minds up' (they were stood by the entrance). I chat to them for a bit and then B BOMB. Yep her boyfriend is here. Ahh so he will be the guy staring me out I thought. Cefai joined us for a bit and then I decided to deal with the angry BF, so I opened him lol. We talked about football.

I then went to chat to one of the PUAs (who I know your real name, but not your online persona - sorry) and he opened a set at the bar. I then joined him and chatted to the other girl there for a bit about the difference between bean bag and cotton wool stuffed frogs (??). She seemed to really like me, but I wasn't so keen. I am in this to find girls I am very attracted to and have them in my life, not having 1 night stands with girls I don't fancy (which I am unfortunately a 'master' at already!!) Again I got reverse AA (!) and was also worried I'd ruin the set for the other PUA. I later learnt he was feeling the same and what we should have done is said 'Hey have you seen Cindy'. I say 'yes lets go look for her' means, 'yes i want to bail too' or 'No sorry', means 'think I'm gonna see this one through buddy'.

Anyways bladder calls, which is also a good cure for RAA too!

I opened 1 more set in Roundhouse, but she has a B'Friend too. Man I only half fancied her too. Again, not sure if she made this up, but either way it ain't good! Also, on side note another value I am trying to install in myself is not to mess around with people's relationships (unless she is really really worth it!). I have slept with married women before, which I used to find quite funny, but really its not very nice!!

Anyways we leave and go onto Tiger Tiger. Outside a PUA (sorry again only know your real name not your online persona) says we won't get in with just guys, so I grab a passing hen group (yes there were f'cking hundreds of these out this weekend!) and say 'are you going to Tiger Tiger?' 'Yes', 'cool we're coming in with you'. Wow that sounds quite confident now, but I think I was just drunk (complete false confidence). We go in and I soon lose everyone. I open a Polish girl who I guessed was Polish (I'm normally terrible at that), but then her friend came over and it soon turned into boring interview style questions (yawn!) This is my 2nd sticking point! I maybe need some sort of routine to stop this happening (see below 'sticking points')

I dance with some PUAs for a bit and then open another set at the side 'I love love Lady Gaga' (cringe!!). This is true, but they weren't impressed with my musical tastes, so I slopped off. I then realise its insanely hot so go to get some water. On the way to the bar upstairs I suddenly become paranoid that everyone in there is a PUA and all looks a bit weird to me in there! Everywhere I look is guys in sets and it starts to freak me out a bit - I need that water I think!

So I go to the bar and wait ages! I chat to some girls there, but mainly i want my water and they can probably sense my de-hydration (or smell my sticking dry breath who knows). I ask a girl at the front to ask for a water for me and she says ok. Her drinks come and I say 'hey where's my water?'. 'Oh I didn't bother getting you one'. I was pissed off (and pissed), 'you know what fuck you. your an idiot!'. I then stormed out of the club to show my anger (not forgetting to get a stamp on the way of course). I want across the road for a water and sandwich that was made out of rubber. Ahhhh, collect my thoughts!

Right so then I'm walking back and I notice a girl stumbling all over the joint, 'Are you ok?' I ask (not an opener btw, she genuinely seemed like she needed help). It turns out she wasn't. She was off her face! 'Right, lets get you a taxi'. She said she lives in Penn oak or something like that in Kent, but then when a taxi stopped she said Charing Cross. He said no. I said ok I'm going to walk you there your too pissed (again I must stress this was not a sarge I was trying to help). We stop for a bottle of water in Trafalguar Square after a strange journey of her drunkingly telling how she's going to ride me to heaven one day and giving me her number. Oh I have now sobered up now btw and it has dawned on me that this girl is amazingly hot. However, I am not a creep I am not going to fuck a girl because she is so drunk she will, but because she wants to. Value Number 2 installed this weekend! I am not Rapey the Clown (a character my friends and I made up who is a very bad man and you should not do as he does!), however fit she might be.

Anyway we stop and drink more water whilst she slurs her words a bit more. Another hot Brazilian girl comes up to us and asks for a cigarette. 'I don't have any' drunky says as she clutches 40 Malborough Lights. Brazillio is pissed off now and says she talks like Brittany Spears (a strange and factly untrue diss, but got drunky real riled up nevertheless!). Right so now I've got the 2 fittest girls in London (or at least that I'd seen that night) argue about 'Hit me Baby one more time'. Brazillio's friend/BF comes over and takes her way. They both look at me like I'm taking advantage of a very drunk girl (at least in my head). 'No I'm getting her I taxi' I want to say but don't.

Right, so little miss 'drunk, tits to die for and a mouth full of cock' and I walk up to Leicester sq to look for a taxi. Well I do, whilst dragging her along. Then I here shouting. Now I have a part time hobby, which unfortunately I can not share on here, but it means I am slightly (very slightly I might add) famous. Now I do not want to big myself up here, as I only have about 3 fans who recognise me, but strangely those 3 fans were on the same road as me at this time. 'Wow, good to meet you man'. They start shaking my hand and yes they actually chant my name! Eventually they go off and the girl looks at me in a way she hadn't before (I think this may have been the Dinner Plate Eyes Style talks off?)

'Who are you?' she says

'Don't worry about it' I reply

'No seriously who are you'

This goes on and I guess this is what social proof is I think! Woo its pretty cool. I need to be able to get this all the time (not via very odd coincidences like this).

Anyway she is still in no state to be taken home and laid, whoever I am, so onwards to the taxi. We then wait on the corner and we do start kissing for a bit and she starts feeling my cock. OMG she's fit, no I am not Rapey the Clown I am not! Moral dilemma! She then falls over again and I annoyingly know what I've got to do....... 'Taxi'...........'I wish I was rapey the clown' I think as i walk home alone

I have made contact with this girl since, which i will tell you about if it goes anywhere, but not sure if it is, but either way I am happy I made the right decision here. I sure everyone here would right?

That last one wasn't really a pick up, but I find the story amusing so thought I'd share.

Right,so I'm tired now. We went out the next night too a few of us which also has stories, but I let you digest this first. Maybe update tomorrow.

For now.....

MY STICKING POINTS

My problems are:

1) Reverse AA: I think now I am very aware of this. I will make a conscious effort to get out of conversations I do not want to be in. I think this will go away soon.
2) Escalating from opening to demonstrating value and displaying sexiness. PLEASE CAN YOU GUYS LET ME KNOW WHAT YOU DO TO GET INTO THAT FLIRTY STAGE WITH A GIRL AND NOT GET INTO BORING INTERVIEW STYLE QUESTIONS. I can be very good at cocky funny, but only if the click happens. Otherwise I am boring. Are there any guys who use cocky funny well on here and if so, do you have techniques to move from meet to flirt?
3) Kino and eventually kissing - I will go more into this when I tell you about Saturdays experiences, but it is a big sticking point!

Stay tuned folks!

Snake Eyes

Ps Please could everyone I met this weekend let me know your online name. Thanks
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Default 07-07-2010, 08:39 AM

It was good to meet you man. It seems like you had a fairly good night considering it was your first night sarging.

I remember that hen night you were talking about and reverse AA. I had been in roadhouse aaaaages before we finally met. Ha. You were in that set a very long time. I'm not sure why you worry so much about leaving a set. Nobody is going to think you're rude. Just say you've got to get back to your friends or that you need the loo or something and go...simples.

I agree with you about tiger tiger. That place was shit! It was basically a sauna full of heavily peacocked PUA's. Real bizarre. Plus every set I entered just seemed fed up with being approached constantly. I had to get out of there quick.

To get you clued in on who was out. There was Spy (the french dude) remadyP&R (the polish dude) Themaxx (the aussie) and edhyde (the english dude) Not a clue who the other lad was.

Good field report man. Looking forward to the next one.
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Default 07-07-2010, 11:00 AM

Id be Rapey N besides she started doin stuff so joining her in taxi would be perfectly normal...i guess...
Anywayz enjoyed ur story and saw a problem common to me as well... lack of escalation...and kino... and smoochin..so id be happy teh advices for it (tho i bet there are already plenty around but more than betta)
Anywho interestin story mate... gotta become famous too


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Default 01-08-2010, 06:12 PM

Hey guys sounds like a cool night out dudes!

Snake Eyes, I feel your reverse AA I cant even consider opening unattractive girls, i know that sound up my self buy i just figure why go through all that trouble. Id rather risk a blow off from hottie, at least I may get lucky and if i dont well then ill pat my self on the back for approaching a doable girl.
Also i feel that not messing with girls in relationships, you gotta have values that give you a sense of being grounded thus leading to outrageous confidence in the field cos if you do get blown off in the field you can still hold your head high cos you are certain that you are a valuable guy.

Soz for the tripe but im loving this whole self development stuff in gaming.
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Default 03-08-2010, 09:51 PM

I know, I just like chatting to people and I'm way too polite for my own good sometimes! Saying that is good to be in a chatty mood by the time you do meet a hottie. Is much easier to turn it on then I find!
Married/taken women are a no no for me now! Bad karma......
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Default 06-08-2010, 10:06 AM

haha nice field report =)

and Lloyd got point

Rapey shouldve gone home with Brittany =)
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