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Default FR: What the hell happened? - 26-06-2010, 02:05 PM

Last night was bizarre for me. I had just come off a blinder of a weekend in London http://www.puaforum.co.uk/field-repo...-progress.html. All week I was feeling good about myself and couldn't wait for the next night out sarging. But where London was probably one of my best nights sarging...Bristol last night was actually down there with the worst! There were a lot of cold bitches in Bristol last night but my bad night had more to do with me and low energy I think. Here's some of the main bits...

Meet up with Ali, Ekofresh and Monkeybuster and we hit glasshouse. It's dead when we get there but after a couple of drinks it picks up. I go to the toilet and when I come back all three lads are in set. I come in to wing Monkeybuster who's chatting to two sisters. I try and get in the conversation but they're more interested in what monkeybuster had to say, so I hang back and leave him to it.

Later on he opens another 2 set and pulls me into it. Again, he's doing really well but when he leaves for the toilet my energy levels don't match his and I end up boring the shit out of both of the girls. The set blows. After Ali number closes we leave for Yia Mas. It's crap in there and ekofresh is getting hit on by a gay guy, so we move on to wetherspoons.

I wildcard ekofresh into a 2 set sitting in a booth. I leave him to it for a while then go in to wing him. He's working the set really well. The blonde sitting next to him seems attracted to him so I make conversation with her mate so ekofresh can have alone time with his target. I'm going natural with my girl but for some reason it's all boring stuff coming out my mouth. I'm even boring myself so I revert back to some routines but it's just not happening. Luckily ekofresh is having a blinder and filling in the awkward silences. He and his target leave the booth, leaving me with my target. I try once more to make an impression by doing a magic trick. She's pretty unresponsive to all my instructions and when I start levitating her straw out of her drink she says "That's a string you're using!" and chops her hand straight between my hands breaking the thread I'm using. Fuck you then I think. I excuse myself and leave.

Myself, Ali and ekofresh chat to a 3 set after this. Ali wings off one girl and once again ekofresh is working the other two great. I try winging him but once again I'm just messing up the set by being quite boring. We move on to mbargo.

I open a 2 set and get blown out straight away. Ali and I then hit the dancefloor. We dance by a 2 set for a little while before a grab one of them by the hand spin her and start dancing with her. We dance for a moment and things are looking up for me until she just goes cold and walks away. I later see her trying to get somebodys attention, which turns out to be monkeybuster. He kiss closes her before we leave for ramshackles.

By the time we've hit ramshackles I'm getting annoyed with myself. Ekofresh gets me pumping up my state at the bar and we head upstairs. I see a 2 set dancing and straight away I enter it. I grab and spin my target and start dancing/chatting with her. Ekofresh comes in and wings away the obstacle. It's a fairly good interaction and after a little while the girls go off for a drink. My target tells me she'll catch me later.

I wildcard monkeybuster into a 2 set and I wing him. They're pretty cold with both of us. He then wildcards me. "What would you think if I wildcarded you that sort of set?" He points to a fairly ugly 2 set. "Whatever, as long as I'm approaching" I approach them instantly and this time open with an opinion opener.

Girl: "You want my honest answer?"
Me: "Yeah, Why not?"
Girl: "I really don't give a shit!"
Me: "Woooow! That's cold! I'm only trying to have a little fun"
Girl: "Oh well"
Me: (With loads of sarcasm) "Well it's been amazing meeting you"

We hit the smoking area and I wildcard monkeybuster into a cute 5 set. He's making the set his bitch and I come in to wing him. I'm so low energy I may as well of not been there. I leave so I don't mess it up for him and as I leave, ekofresh goes in and does a far better job than I do.

I go inside, leaving the guys to it and open a couple more sets, both of which were pretty unresponsive. Summing up my night.

I literally don't know what happened last night. I came to Bristol with low energy and out of state and paid the price for it. After last weekend and how much I was looking forward to Bristol I thought I'd kill it. I can't figure out how I can go from the extreme of having a great night, to the other extreme of having an awful night in a week? I guess you just get these sort of nights once in a while?

The one positive I can take from the night is, even with some of the cold blow outs I got from some of the girls, I could still soldier on and approach. If that was me several months ago and I came across a girl who was fairly bitchy toward me, that'd be the end of my night and I'd stop approaching.

I'm laughing about this all today. Next time I'm bringing out my A-game and rock out with my cock out.

Perseverance!
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Default 26-06-2010, 02:34 PM

Totally at a guess, but had you ever been to any of the clubs before? And had you been to the London clubs before going last week?

Personally, I can find it difficult to warm up when I'm in new places and new clubs. I always get that sense that I'm a visitor or a guest or something, and I have trouble relaxing.

When I'm in places I know, I'm much better, more confident.

Comfort zones can be terrible things!


Just get on with it please
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Default 26-06-2010, 02:54 PM

Ye I've been to some of those places a few times now in Bristol.

But I've never been out drinking in central London. So it's all a bit backwards.

I totally see your point on comfort zones though. It can affect you.
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Default 26-06-2010, 04:21 PM

Don't worry too much about it mate, put it behind you can come out with a few of us to Cheltenham tonight if you fancy it.


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Default Fun First, Girls Later - 26-06-2010, 04:48 PM

Dude! I've been pondering about last night. It wasn't the best for me either in terms of state but I was steady. You seemed to be kicking yourself most the night, I felt bad for you. But one thing I did have for you is RESPECT! You had some shitty sets last night (yeah... sorry for the ugly bitch wildcard – remind me to never send mates into bored looking munters!).. but you kept ploughing through! Funking respect mate!

So I don't think it's a question of what was up with your Game, but why weren't you having fun? Was it case you didn't feel comfortable? Was it the places we went to (I agree about Yia Mass – never been in there and enjoyed myself – yet.) Was it the people you were out with? You need to work that out. I'm sure the answers there. (I hope that doesn't sound patronising – it's not meant to...). The guys in Manchester (when I went out there) seem to follow the mantra “Fun first, girls later”. They enjoy each others company, they enjoy the places they go to, they love the music, they funking have fun! I assume then when they go up to girls, get blown out, laugh in their faces and go back to having fun with there mates. Either way its a good night! (right?)

I find that if I'm having an awesome laugh then state comes naturally... otherwise, I'm forcing it... which in term effects my Game.

Also, I realised that I don't bring you into sets very well. 1) Something I'm so mixed up in my own Game, I don't realise that you're coming in (soz man!). 2) When I do, I say something like, “Hey! This is Graeme... he's the man!” - pretty poor. I need to work out how I can big you up better.

As for that girl that jumped from you to me, again soz man... I was on my own when she approached me... I didn't know you were dancing with her. I ended up ditching here cos she was far too full on... and ultimately, a Fool's Mate... I didn't do anything to kiss her.

For me, I have good nights and I have seriously shit nights where I chode up and blow sets up! Remember I told you that story about the 2 set I blew up, turned my back on, straight into another 2 set to blow them up too, turn my back on them to realise I'm back in the 2 set I blew up previously. Just take it on the chin and crack on.

To finish off... I remember last night looking at you 2 in Weatherspoons thinking you guys were doing awesome with the set you wildcarded Ekofresh with. I remember, thinking 'Shit! I want to be in that set! Those guys are on fire!!!' and being slightly envious! Haha!

Dude! I'm going to text you now! Come to Cheltenham tonight!
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Default 26-06-2010, 06:15 PM

Sounds like a rough ass night. I also have trouble with energy levels some nights. My biggest problem is that I end up using alcohol as a crutch, which is definitely not solid game.

Its tough to not let that sort of thing run your energy down. All the same, I reckon the solution is solid inner game.

Good luck!
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Default 26-06-2010, 11:07 PM

from reading a few posts tonight, its quite interesting..

myself and captain freedom tried sarging last night in Crawley, this was my first time sarging, and there was a really funny atmosphere in Town, it was lifeless.

I could be completely wrong but my theories people had this weekend are as follows...

In all honesty, I think theres is a million different things that can influence how people think.. the 2 biggest things surely have to be money and weather.

For a start,for the working man and women its week 3 of the month, people are not getting paid until for another week, and the last 4 weeks people have been out in the boozer partying with the world cup, and remember we have another game tomorrow.

Also remember June is always a strange old month, as people saving money for their holidays in July and August, this is when the majority of chicks and guys will be heading out to Ibiza,Zante or wherever their summer holiday will be,and they are saving for spending money.

Also remember is was IOW festival and Glasters too... trust me, from a man who has worked in travel and hospitality for a long time, June is very similar to February.

This would explain why there is a funny atomosphere around, as people just are not spending money, which makes them grumpy, also people are expecting to get whacked by Germany tomorrow, and this also brings everyones enegy levels down..

Then theres the weather, now also because the weather is lovely, remember most people have been stuck in the office all week when the suns been beating down, this also makes people unhappy.

On a more deeper note, from spending the last 3 months reading and reading and watching everything I could about pickup, ive come to quite a few conclusions...

Remember it really all kicked off in LA, and I promise you LA is a million years away from life in humble blighty... for example theres 9.8 million people live in LA thats more than the population of London.

We are all going out Sarging in smallish towns, where the mentality its completely different from not only the USA, but LA as a whole...

Trust me anyone who has been to LA, will tell you its full of nutters and anything goes, so doing magic in smallish cities like Bristol, you can very easily be type cast as a twat.

I know if you turned up in most clubs in the small towns and cities in the UK like Mystery and Style, you would get thrown out straight away, its just doest work like that in UK.

The only exception to the rule is in the big cities like London and Manchester, and good logistics like a apartment in town, then you can go to a different club 7 nights a week, never bump into the same old people, and you will find the people in the cities and more open minded.

For example, in Crawley, its a complete working mans town, or if you wanted to be nasty you could say a chav towm, they just are not used to fancy openers,magic tricks and the best friend test, trust me, myself and Capt Freedom tried them, people are just used to QuikFit Fitters and sticky fumblings in the back of cabs, and they are best found on week 1 not week 3...

LA, Vegas, NY,crazy mad people wearing big hats and goggles,magic tricks, approaching people in high streets and asking what colour you should hair, does not and will not work in small cities and towns on an tiny island in the middle of the north sea, people need to be realistic and open minded, UK chicks are the most narrow minded and shallow people you will find in the world after the germans, trust me I traveled it for many years

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Default 05-07-2010, 05:58 PM

Good points made,I agree entirely with the points you made,provincial towns are hard to game,thank god I live in manchester!
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Default 05-07-2010, 08:42 PM

1*Girl: "You want my honest answer?"
2*Me: "Yeah, Why not?"
3*Girl: "I really don't give a shit!"
4*Me: "Woooow! That's cold! I'm only trying to have a little fun"

I would have said at 4*, "what about your dishonest answer?" ha.

My advice would be don't let the shit sets get you down. And I don't mean don't let them get you down now. I mean don't let them get you down ON the night. Its good you can use the night as motivation to smash it next time! However try and have that attitude after each single set rather than at the end of the night/the next day. I used to let them get me down a bit but then one day in manchester, my friend (whos amazing with girls) was like "She was cool so I asked her out for coffee" and someone asked "what did she say" and he said with a smirk on his face "no!" then laughed his arse off. Thats the way to be!

In terms of energy levels, I totally feel you man. Sometimes when your boys on fire, you just feel totally washed out. I think the best way to cure this is for your wing to intro you and then set you up for a good DHV story so you can introduce yourself. If I'm ever going into a set with my best friend, he'll always be like "ooooh and heres my best friend in the world. guys this is felix, hes a medical student whos going to save a million lives... you wanna be a paedatrician right man?". This is always amazing for me. Sometimes he'll switch the padatrician with something about my parents being rich but the point is that intro switches the focus momentarilly onto me and allows me to put some input into the conversation/make my mark on them. Then I'll switch it back to him.
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Default 05-07-2010, 09:52 PM

SOME GIRLS ARE OUT AN OUT DICKHEADS, MAYBE ARGUIN WITH THEIR BF or BEEN SWERVED, It happens, ive said it before, dont let all this mystery/ style etc PUA 5 for 5.... i get every girl i approach, perfect sarge stories fool u. Honestly guys everyone gets binned. Dont worry about it
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