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Talking Busting approach anxiety - 17-06-2010, 12:03 AM

So it is the second-to-last day of term here at UKC in Canterbury, and practically everyone who was left on campus has gone out to our campus nightclub. Its called the Venue, and its not a bad club actually.

I decided to go out, since I move out of my accommodation on Friday. I fancied a last trip out, since all the best clubs are in town, and I probably won't bother with the venue until next year.

I decided it would be a day of AA busting. My objective was to be as social as possible, and talk to everyone, and open sets at every opportunity. I feel that I did really well.

My first set was a group of four girls in the small burger bar above the nightclub. I fancied a seat, and they were hogging all the chairs, so I pulled the 'magic trick' on them. I asked them if they believed in spells, and when they said no, invited one of them to stand up and try one out. When she stood up, I made her do a little spin on the spot, and then stole her chair. I was so nervous I was physically shaking.

Thing is, after I did this, I was straight in the zone. They took it well, and laughed, and were good natured about it. They tried to get me to buy them drinks, but I avoided that.

I was on such a high after that, I opened six sets! One could have gone somewhere, but I fucked it up by panicking after I ran out of canned material.

Best part is, out of six sets, I got two number closes. One of them was from a cool girl I was next to at the bar; I was next to her for so long that I ran out of canned material and had to try to improvise, but despite the nerves think I did a good job. The other was a sweet young thing I bumped into on my way out. Both were receptive, and seemed to be having fun.

My sticking points for tonight were having too high an energy level compared to the groups I was joining (through nerves mostly), and not taking opportunities for escalation. Considering that this is my first foray into the field exclusively for the purpose of testing my game, I am well proud of myself.

It can only get better from here!
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Default 17-06-2010, 08:29 AM

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Considering that this is my first foray into the field exclusively for the purpose of testing my game, I am well proud of myself.
You should be proud mate. Great stuff. Seven sets in your first session, not messing about there.

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I was next to her for so long that I ran out of canned material and had to try to improvise, but despite the nerves think I did a good job
More of this man. Chatting up girls doesn't have to be an act. You are worthy of showing them who you really are.


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Default 17-06-2010, 08:49 AM

Good work man!

But I got to ask. Do you only use canned material in your sets usually?

Using canned material is ok. I'm personally still a fan of it but it shouldn't be what all of your game is made of. So don't panic if you run out of lines. If you manage to pull a girl and take her back to your place, you still going to use canned material right up to the f-close? or if you got a relationship with one of these girls, would you be using canned material throughout the relationship? I doubt it.

What I personally try to do is to let the conversation flow naturally. If the conversation is getting stale or I can't think of anything to say, then I'll use a bit of canned material just to spark the conversation back into life, then continue to go freestyle until I need the canned material again.

Actually, since I've started gaming this way I've improved in natural conversation. At first I was constantly using canned material as a safety net as I am a crap conversationalist (I was extremely shy and unsociable before finding the community). I've found that the more I only use canned material when the conversation gets boring, the less I'm actually using them. I'm getting used to letting the conversation flow and chatting with whatever comes to my head.

Hope that helps?
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Default 17-06-2010, 10:41 AM

Well Done Whack...it is very normal for new PUA's to rely on 'canned material' and then feel the panic set in when they run out so don't feel down or worried about that.

I was exactly the same and I used routines and openers and esculation routines just so I had a pattern to follow - and guess what....it was okay! There's nothing wrong with it when you're finding your feet and figuring out what works for you - but - it limits your Sets...if a girl goes off-track and you don't have the prepared material for it then you panic and loose your Game. But as you develop you will naturally become more natural and start to use the canned stuff as a back up incase you dry - but you won't lead with it. I still use routines (because I love them) but mainly for DHV purposes now.

Compared to what we first chatted about bud - you are already showing a progression! Keep it up


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Default 17-06-2010, 01:41 PM

LOL @ Kowalski!

My canned material extends to openers at the moment. If I feel a need to neg, I also use a canned routine. I struggle to get the confidence to open sets when I use situational openers or improvised ones, but I get the odd time when its absolute pure gold.

Conversation generally flows freely, since I am a lot more socially able these days. On the other hand, I do occassionally end up in boring small talk. I resort to canned material when this happens to re-ignite the fun part of the conversation, and multithread it. I also like to cut a boring conversational thread with a routine. I think it all worked pretty well!

I realise I did a few other things wrong. Since my friends had gone home, and I had gone to the bar on my own, I think I am guilty of 'sharking', or prowling around looking for pretty girls. Not the best look to have in a club. I also leaned in to the sets too much too early, and had too high an energy level. Nothing catastrophic, but all stuff I can work on!

Really pleased with how this is going. Hopefully once my confidence improves with practice, I will be able to rely less on canned material and give off a more relaxed vibe.
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