Hope it's cool me posting so much.

Opened a 2 set last night, she was a solid 9, fake tits short shorts and every guy in the club was trying it on.

I approach the male of the group asking for an opinion, who lies more men or women? In a subtle not rude way I turn my shoulder to the target. She keeps piping in trying to comment but I'm basically ignoring her.

After a little while and some laughs with the others I turn and say "I can see you want to put your two pennies worth in, what do you want to say?"

She laughs and we get chatting, I was a few drinks down at this point so can't remember the whole conversation but I do remember that she kept touching my arm. So I said "hands off the merchandise, you can't afford me." And other things to that effect.

She kept pushing and I was pulling away. I said she had a nice ass and that she should turn around and bend over so I could see properly , she did.

I then negged her, "nice nails, are they real?" She said that they were then put her hand up my tshirt and lightly scratched me. I could tell she was keen.

She kept leaning in so I said "do you want to kiss me?" She laughed then said "no I have a boyfriend" so I replied " I didn't say you could but it looked like your had something on your mind.

Again, she laughed and didn't show any signs of disinterest. I didn't know what to do next so just said "I have to catch up with my friends, I'll see you later."

When I did see her later she was fuming and said she didn't chase guys and told me to get out her face. So I'd definitely blown it.

How did I fuck up so bad?

King

Typical MM problem. This was the point you have to start walking on your own two feet. /you probably should stop using MM and learn to converse instead.

From the girls point of view. You strung her along flirting away with your lines (Yet another problem with MM users, they don't know why they're doing a specific thing) she was really enjoying herself and then boom you outta lines.

You really have two choices, either drop the lines or learn where you are in the model and understand what the objective is in that part. Mystery is a great teacher, in fact I really need to get around to re-reading Venusian Arts, but he saw it more as a video game rather than real life.

Thank you for the notes. I need to work on noticing when I've got the hook and then relaxing into a normal conversation as apposed to gaming the whole time. How do I learn where I am in the model?

Also I haven't read the Mystery method, is it worth it? I've just picked up some things from reading 'The Game' and some David Dee videos.

King

Banter and flirt until she wants to know a bit more about you(hook) then slowly find out more about her while still bantering. That's what I generally do.

I just read your intro. You've gotten laid enough times before to know what you're doing. I don't think you need game like you think you need game. This doesn't mean you're not doing anything wrong, just means you've got a the foundation, if there's anything you think is wrong, shoot a question and we'll be able to help, as in your coffee shop dilemma.

Sounds like that went really well, apart from what Top Hat highlights. Don't think of the girl as your "target", more like a girl you just want to talk to.

I wouldn't worry about her blowing up at you - she was flirting away but then told you she had a boyfriend. You then need to decide if you believe her or not. If its true your as well to walk away, if it's not true its up to you if you want to ignore and plough on past it.

Tidy, thanks for the kind words gents.

I will set up a big thread for my next post.

Have yourselves a great weekend.

King