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Default A beginners Journey - 21-07-2014, 10:52 PM

So I became a member of this forum yesterday. I'd spent a sometime reading some posts before hand but I thought I'd get involved. After posting my introductory post I arranged with a friend that we were going to go out into manchester with the soul purpose of picking up women. He's about 40 and has recently got out of a long term relationship. Same as me. Although I'm just younger.

Anyway meet at his at 8 and I tell him I don't plan on drinking much because I want to try this stuff sober. He's not on the same line as me either btw. Hasn't read any books or got involved in any forums. He just thinks we're going out on the pull and it's going to be easy.

So we head out into Manchesters Northern Quarter. So we go into the first bar which was hammered. I was surprised as it was a sunday and in the corner there was a girl sitting alone but she clearly worked there. She had a book in front of her. She wasn't too hot but I figured it's early let's try a little warm up. I approach her and open with "you look bored out of your mind" to which she replies "awww have you come to keep me company" so off to a good start we chat for a bit and we got on. I got a few laughs out of her. Then I tell her I have to get back to my friend but if she's lucky enough I'll come back and entertain her later.

I go back to my friend and then someone who works out in my gym recognizes me and sends over a few shots of tequila and a white russian. Yes I did plan on trying this sober but I'm not going to say no to free drinks. When we decide to leave I approach the girl again inform her I'm leaving and ask for her number. She tells me she isn't allowed to give it out at work but she can take mine. So I write it down on some paper she has. That's a rejection though right? Well she hasn't got in touch so I would think so.

Anyway we move on and in the next bar there were 2 girls and a guy. Both the girls were pretty hot! and I don't know why but I just jumped to the conclusion that the guy was a friend. Turns out I was right. I stand next to them at the bar order my drink and open with "you must be as sad as us out drinking on a sunday" and they reply with "YEAHHH IT'S SUNDAY CLUB" we all get chatting and pretty much straight away I ask how they all know each other to make sure the guy is just a friend. So I decide the blonde is definitely hotter and she's the one I'm going for. We all sit down and just chat away. I try a few set pieces on her. Like getting her to try and lie 5 times to questions and she loved it. I got her to buy me a drink when she failed. Well, she starts touching me and I know it's on. We carry on talking some more and she asks me to take her number and we can arrange a date. I decide it's probably better to arrange it there and then. So we do. I'm supposed to be seeing her this friday. So now I'm thinking fuck just taking a number I want to kiss close this. She's just text her brother asking to be picked up so I try taking her hand and say follow me. She didn't just looked at me confused. So now I'm thinking ok I'm not going to get to kiss her. And I haven't got the balls to just try and kiss her in front of her friends. So as she's about to leave I say ok you can kiss me goodbye and point to my cheek. She full on kisses me! which surprised the hell out of me. And before leaving says make sure you text me tomorrow. So I think that one was a success.... how ever. I did text her today and she hasn't replied. So what does that mean?

Well, they leave and we move on to another bar. This bar was full of stunning women. and feeling good about the last result I spot a hot brunette at the bar. So I stand next to her and say "you know you can tell a lot about a woman by what she's drinking" she asks what? and I say "you're an alcoholic" (pretty sure I read that somewhere on here and I liked it) anyway she didn't take too kindly to that haha and walks away. So my mate gets us a drink each and we look around. I spot that brunette sitting down with her friend who is just as hot and think I'm going to try again. I walk over but it's a bit awkward because there was no room and I had to lean over the table so she could hear me. I tell her "I hope I didn't offend you earlier" she replies with "no I didn't actually hear what you said" it was then I noticed her accent wasn't english. I ask where she's from and she tells me Lithuania. So I'm trying to talk to her while leaning across her friend and her friend moves aside and tells me to sit next to her. When I sit down I say "oh no your friend has put you in an awkward position now where you have a guy you may not want to talk to sitting here chatting you up" and she replies with "I'm practically Russian and I'm honest. If I didn't want you sitting here I would tell you" So again I'm thinking nice one game on!! We're chatting and having a good time and she challenges me to a dance off so we dance (I'm not too bad a dancer) we have a laugh and claims a win! I still think I won. Anyway, shortly after her and her friend decide they're leaving. I try to get her number and she also says no but I will take yours. What's the deal with that? As I'm not getting her number I'm guessing kissing her is out of the question so again I do the "ok you can kiss me goodbye" and point to my cheek. She kisses me and leaves. I haven't heard from her either.

Next one. My mate spots this girl who is dancing away on the dance floor drawing a shit load of attention to herself. Almost every guy is looking at her. I tell my mate to just walk up to her and say something. He says he's going to the toilet and will do it on the way back. So I see him coming back, he walks passed her. Stands there for a few seconds then bottles it. So as he is walking towards me I get up from my seat walk passed him over to her and say "who on earth taught you to dance like that?" she answers "the fairies" which then leads to some weird conversation. Anyway I'm not trying to pick her up I'm trying to set her up with my mate. I tell her "My mate thinks you're hot but he got a little shy with all these guys looking at you, do you want to come sit down with us?" she replies with "I'd love to but I'm with my friend, but thank you for having the balls to come and speak to me" I then notice a few yards away is her not so good looking friend who looks pretty pissed haha. So I try to win her over. I say "sorry I didn't notice you there. My names Ricky" and hold out my hand. She shakes it and says "It's ok Ricky, you don't have to speak to me" Clearly not happy but I try persuading her anyway. She just tells me to have a good night and doesn#t look interested at all. So I leave it at that.

Anyway from this point on everyone is dancing and I swear the music was louder and all of a sudden I just couldn't approach people any more. I don't know what happened but I just wasn't doing it. and the few I did try I just sank like a lead balloon. So the rest of the night went like that although my mate did manage to start dancing with some pretty hot girls who had some guys with them. Well I start speaking to the chinese guy first to find out what the deal is with the group. They're all work colleagues. Now one of them is severely hot and the chinese guy tells me she used to be a lap dancer. and I'm off like a shot! but I can't talk to her now. Music is too loud and she didn't look like she wanted to stop dancing. So I try dancing with her and it goes great. But I couldn't think how I move this on from just dancing! eventually she got bored of dancing with me and went off. However my mate seems to be doing ok with one of the other girls. Bit of dirty dancing going on. So I don't really speak to anyone for the rest of the night until the club closes and we make our way outside. My mate had spent a fair amount of time dancing with one of those girls though and we all leave the club together. Me him the hot little blonde and the ex lap dancer. So outside my mate is trying to persuade them to come back to his. He owns a penthouse and has a bar all that kind of stuff. But they're not having it. They say they're going back to theirs to party some more. My mate suggests us going back to theirs and the ex lap dancer says "ok but why should we let you back to ours?" I could see where this was going and I knew my mate was about to try and prove himself to her. I tried cutting in saying "no why should we show you a good time by coming to yours?" and she said "well your friend asked" and I didn't have a witty reply to that haha so he went on to try and prove himself and surely enough they got bored and walked away. So I would be very interested in anyones ideas on how I could have won that one. Pretty sure it was on if we had said the right things.

After that it was all speaking to girls for 5 minutes and my mate trying to persuade them to come back to his. I knew that was very unlikely to work but he persisted anyway. We end up going home. Me back to mine and him to his. No girls

So any advice from anyone? Any major mistakes I made or somewhere I could improve even if it was something I did well. Also!! why hasn't this girl text me back who kissed me and even asked me to message her the next day?

Any feed back appreciated sorry it's a bit of long read and there is probably a lot of useless information in there. it's my first time doing this stuff.
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Default 22-07-2014, 10:12 AM

I don't think you did too badly for a first night out. You seem like you must have a pretty good vibe going on when you're out & are fine with approaching.

The numbers thing, a lot of them will flake on you if you haven't got a connection with the girl.

The first number wasn't a rejection it was a close, but a weak close.


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Default 22-07-2014, 02:54 PM

Bit of a slab of text there buddy! Anyway, welcome to the forum


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Default 22-07-2014, 06:15 PM

Nice field report :]


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Default 22-07-2014, 08:15 PM

Thank you everyone for your response especially Jaz a lot of valuable feedback. The reason behind my intention of not drinking though was because I can get drunk and then pretty much say what ever I want to who ever I want. So thought I wanted to try and pull this shit off sober. But I can definitely see how that's creepy.

I clearly have a lot to learn but I want to be good at this stuff so will apply the advice and hopefully improve on my next outing.
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Default 22-07-2014, 10:32 PM

Not to be too over analytical but if I drink more than 3 / 4 pints my behaviour is driven my unconscious mind. As my unconscious mind has a lot of hang-ups about girls. I do shit with girls.

So they key for me is to change my unconscious mind by taking action when I'm sober - work in progress (see my field reports) and still going out with friends for a couple of drinks. :[]

Look forwards to the next field report buddy.


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