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Default FR: (Detected) Not a Great Night, but experience gained - 24-01-2010, 11:05 AM

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Camden, London, Lass Night. Me and a Friend, went out to meet some other guys, for one of my m8s birthdays.

Went into this pub/bar, was busy and very lively, i immediately wanted to sarge. So i touched base with the guys, then made a bee-line for the bar where i came across my first 2-set.
The main target of the 2-set, a HB8 Blonde, she was smiley, approachable, and i noticed she had a cast on her wrist. I immediately played the cast, for the opener, accusing her of being in a too many fist-fights, which she playfully enjoyed and made a few light punches on my chest... immediate Kino. I found out where she was from, and with my geo-knowledge, pulled out some memories of the kids aqua-park place that used to be there, and we friendly reminisced. Was a good opener, probably my best of the night, most natural, when this completely Douchey guy just burst into the middle of us, queueing for the bar... he was completely fucked, and also was just a massive knob! really chodey guy, the thing that anonyed me was not that he was trying to get on her, because he wasnt, just the fact it was a busy area, and there was no space for him, he had no right to just push right into the middle of us... the thing that made this worse was the fact, he was a friend of a friend, so kinda didnt want to say anything, incase it had bad reprocussions... anyways as a result of that interruption, that was the end of that set.


2nd set.

Teamed up with a friend (non PUA trained, but natural, he's lucky hes a really good looking guy, and for some reason, which i can never fully understand is good at conversation, besides all he seems to do is compliment)

anyways, approach a 3-set.. whacked out the custard routine. Good opener, instant debating and fun stories thrown back and forth about the benefits of hot and cold custard... that lasted for about 30 seconds, when ABF came over, and just put himself behind his gf, looking at us... as if to say 'no entry'. Typical... anyways it meant we were down to a 2set. only 1 of the 2 was really worth it, so i saw my previous set, and backed out to talk to them instead...

when i got back my mate and one of the remaining 2 set were there, and she said 'so hows the openers going' ...my mate had come clean about everything! which really annoyed me!!! it was a chodey thing to do.. although this girl was a GAMER. She Knew the game, she claimed her ex bf told her about it, but she knew everything; opininon openers, time constraints, kino and even Negs... which kinda annoyed me, because she condisendingly described a neg infront of me and my mate, and it felt like we were taking a lecture... my friend basically de-valued us by sitting there taking the lecture, without interjecting any fun or cockiness... i reassured her that its worked tonnes in the past and shes the first person to spot the routines (truth) and thanked her, saying she had an interesting insight... she actually wasnt disagreeign with my technique, infact she thought the custard routine was good,she described how she hooks up with men as 'process of elimination' - typical HB9. The thing was, she was intelligent, and she clearly wasnt drinking, she was sharp and articulate, we got outgamed! Although, i think had i been there before my mate decided to give us up... i would have been able to retain some more value for the two of us...


Next part was frustrating for me.... Same mate, spotted a girl and just smiled at her, and directed her over, then started chatting to her.. all he did was compliment her hair, and clothes, then asked for a kiss close... and he got it! Was frustarting to one minute, have him crumble in the hands of a HB9, then just goes and cracks on effortlessly with a HB7, with me stood right next to him... i then as soon as they finished said to her 'so where have all your mates gone tonight then' *HINTS* to my mate (lets go and get me some now ffs)... her friends were just not hot, so i passed....

Anyways the next and final interaction for me, came with another custard opener, which worked blindingly well, opened a 3 set, and then got attention form their friends which became a 5set.. i had some rough opposition from some douchey guys, who i shrugged off quite effortlessly, with some C/F style etc... then the main girl i was getting with... negs, kino everything, turns out she has a bf, so she said she couldnt accept my number... i gamed that response saying 'i cant beleive how possessive your bf is, is he needy?... my gf is really chilled out, i like that'.... didnt crunch though...

I made about 6-7 approaches, got detected, plus a total of 3 BF's...

In football terms, i wasnt getting 'the rub of the green!'

Still, worthy of a FR.

Experience is what you get, when you dont get what you want!!!

Picard.
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Default 24-01-2010, 05:42 PM

Its never happened to me before, so I can't say for sure how I'd react. But if some girl said to me 'I know exactly what you're doing. You're doing that Pick Up artist stuff right? With the Negs and demonstrating value and all that shit?' I might just say 'Yeah of course I am. I've just got a few more things to say until you can't help yourself anymore. By the way, I'm ready for a drink now, I'll have a beer.'

Or summat.


Just get on with it please
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Default 24-01-2010, 09:18 PM

yeah, i mean i the thing was... i stepped awya form the set, and when i got back, my secrets were revealed.... so i didnt get the chance to react ot the initial PUA discovery, which is kinda gay, because im sure i could have defended my pride quite well... i guess that what happens. Its the 2nd time my PUA has been detected (both times are the only 2 times ive sarged with this particular guy) [coincidence?] so i guess its gonna happen every now and again, ive probs sarged nrly 20 women this week and been caught by 1... not bad odds tbf!

and K-Dawg, i actually was reasonably authentic tbf... the custard routine is authentic-proof, all it is is opinions on custard... you should know this, you are the Custard Routine Co-Creator tbh
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Default 25-01-2010, 05:19 AM

picard,

I think for your sloshed intruder a good way to demonstrate value (if everybody else was as unhappy with him a you were) would be to find a way to make him disappear. If he's not bigger than me and wasted, I usually act like I'm his best mate and drag him away, "Alright, mate you've had enough. Let's get you back to mum and nice warm glass of milk."

If the guy were bigger and similarly wasted, I would have taken him by the shoulder and told him, "Hey lets go get a drink at the bar. We'll get you a REALLY great Cranberry Juice --" really sell it and while you lead him away have a wink at the girls. Be seen socializing with some girls at the bar and come back later, telling the girl, "you still owe me the story behind that cast."

I don't have a clue how to deal with girls that know about the books, except for what everybody says, "Oh, yea, me and my friend we're just talking about that. He says it doesn't work and bla, bla, what's your take on it?"

You're right about experience gained though. Probably after doing this for a few more months and stuff like this will be second nature to you, just because you've done it so much. Totally worth it.

Jak
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