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Default Evolves Journey - First Natural game lay - 12-09-2013, 07:13 PM

Little bit about myself before we begin...
Got pretty decent at routine and scripted game a year/2 years ago, got a girlfriend, became extremely introverted (complete chode, worse than before), we broke up, I started natural game... Damn Natural game is pretty awful to start with, but much better in the long haul.
Wasn't letting myself post this until I got a proper lay from natural game..
Too many people are keyboard warriors on all PUA forums and need some incentive, this was documented for my personal use but if I can help someone leave the house.. I'll be happy. I started out fucking terribly.. then stepped up and got laid..
Leave the house guys (Don't let the fantasy be enough -RSD Alex).

Things I need to remember:
• Man ACTION, woman REACTION
• People only have as much power as you give them
• I am the BUYER not the SELLER
• Do not be validation seeking
• Be self amused
• Do not retreat into my head
• Draw state from within (Practice)
• Lose the EGO
• I am the prize
• Love myself, how can one expect others to love oneself if one doesn't.
• GET REFERENCE POINTS.
 Laser eye contact
 Good body language
 Commanding and Challenging tone of voice

The more I learn, the more detailed it gets

Day one 2nd August 2013 (Dan3000, Martin, Evolve)

1. Hb 8
Foreign (Polish), didn't speak very good English, she kept apologising,
I tried to stay in set as long as possible and mocked that she couldn't speak English (Jokingly), I asked why she came over here without studying English, her response was, laughing, "I study 6 years school" , I mentioned something about pineapple, shook her hand, and ran away with my tail between my legs.

2. We were walking around the city, I decided to merge into an unattractive 4 set, pretended to go along with what they were saying for self amusement, fat girl, very rude, she came around after some teasing, I left laughing.

Night one, 2nd August 2013 (Dan3000, Martin, Evolve)

1. Approached one blond hb7 opened with "Hey there, you look bored I thought id join you"
10 minute convo Quite unresponsive, after talk about her trip to Ibiza she opened up more, mostly fluff talk literally had no idea where to take the conversation.

2. Two hb 8/9
Crouched down beside them with "Hey, what are we talking about"
Looked stunned, decently friendly, teased them a little, felt happy about opening them, wasn't sure where to go, bailed telling them to enjoy their night

3. Two 5/3
Went to approach, turns out I knew one of them, had planned to just go in, ended up blurting out "HEY, I KNOW YOU!"
3 Seemed very unresponsive, 5 was much more responsive, spent 10 minutes proving that I knew 3 (We worked together in another life) while she seemed not to care (shouldn't have done that, doesn't matter, opened, got the reference point) 3 got a little more responsive while throwing congruence tests, which I believe I failed them all.


Night 2 (Dan3000, Evolve) - Need to DHV more, need to build attraction, maybe still a bit validation seeking

1. Hb6/5
Sprinted up behind them while mid conversation with Dan, Turned out to be pretty young Asked them where they were going to party, they were going home, I laughed that they were boring, slightly worked as a warm up set to get in state

2. HB 4/8
Walked into the smoking area, sat at a table of the two of them having a conversation, turned out to be a long conversation with the 4 of us, they excused themselves, went to the toilet and didn't return, don't think we we're shunned so didn't take it personally. Didn't show intent, didn't escalate

3. HB5/7
Walked past us walking to a pub, jumped in front of them arms outstretched shouting stop!
They looked startled then laughed, I asked them where they were going, ended up going to a different pub with them, Both had boyfriends, mostly fluff talk and teasing



4. HB 4/7/8
Asked them where we should go, got tons of IOI's from 8/7, we all talked for a long while but wasn't sure where to go from there, bailed.

Night 3(Dan3000, Evolve) - Short night
1. HB 3/4
Opened normally saying "hello", initiated fluff talk, warming up, wanted to practice talking about what I wanted to talk about (ended up being about Komodo dragons for some reason) bit of a laugh

2. HB8
Opened a Club promoter girl, very hot, she looked fed up and was extremely unreceptive, I fluff talk and bailed

3. HB 7/7
Ran into a hotel, girl was solo, opened with Hi, you look bored I thought I'd come say hi, very receptive, talked for about 5 minutes, her friend came back, was receptive, told them we would catch them later (should have at least number closed or manned the fuck up), bailed

Night 4 (Dan3000, Evolve)

TIL - (Need to open more daring sets, not just solo girls, be more dominant, stop bailing early)
1. HB7
Sprinted across the road, opened her by telling her I was tired so, the best way to get in a good state was to talk to strangers, she laughed, bit of fluff talk hard to understand because she was fucking French, bit of Kino, hugged her and got back to Dan

2. Met HB7 from night 2
Bit of fluff talk, she told the story of how I opened them to great amusement, definite IOIs, told them to come on an adventure when they finished their drinks, got a bit warm (and afraid of the conversation getting awkward because it was very loud) bailed

Night 5

Forgot to document

Night 6 - FIRST SUCCESS

1. Mother and daughter, daughter was extremely hot, had a bit of a laugh, got directions to the place we were going off them, had my arm around the mother and vice versa for the duration, nice little opening set.

2. 2 rude girls
can't remember much, I'm writing this a week later - shame on me.

3. Dancing girl - 3
went into a bar and danced in the pub for a while to loosen up, got extremely hit on by a 32yr old 3, literally had to run.

4. Dancing 5/6/7
Danced with and had a bit of fun with 6/5/7, played a bit but the 5 thought she was a 10 (she looked like a 10 from the back. but had HUGE teeth) which made me laugh, I didn't pursue.

5. First success with natural game.
Walking up the street, thinking to myself.. fuck this is a shit night.. 8 appears with her friend.
jumped in front of them, "Stop..... I love you" she had an astonished expression on her face, I hugged her saying (in quick succession) "will you marry me?, would you make a good wife? will you look after me when I get old?" she was laughing asking me if I was on drugs, I leant back against the wall.
My body language was excellent, (She commented that "you must be a player to just say that to someone, I mean, look at your body language") tonality was great.
Dan300 was occupying the friend, which worked out brilliantly.
Called me hot, but was very... very cautious of me, thought I was taking the piss out of her, after a while of fluff talk she started to open up.. then reverted and ran away, we walked off and they called us back, then ran over to us..
Long story short she told me I was too good to be true, made out, kissed, she kissed my neck, and gave me her number, small success but still felt like a king.




Night 7 - terrible night, although tried the 4 times rule for the first time!


We walked around most of the night, not finding many sets to open.

I opened a 5 set of quite unattractive girls (none over a 4) for about 20 minutes, it was good practice for running a larger group of people

HB7 - foreign
Opened outside cinema , she ignored me like I wasn't even there, I responded with another opener, she looked over, ignored me.
I responded AGAIN with "weird, you're acting like I'm trying to have sex with you" then continued on, she turned around with a big smile and turns out she was a lovely person, I bailed




CHEST INFECTION FOR THE NEXT FEW DAYS COULDN'T GO OUT






Night 8 (Dan3000, Evolve) (Need to give more of a range of emotions, show intent, not be afraid to blow myself out of set)


5/8/gay friend/4(rude)
4 set, opened ok, hooked, finally and stayed in set for about an hour and a half where 2 more friends joined, I was leading most of the conversation and getting extreme IOIs from the least attractive twin sister (5), could have taken it somewhere but thought it would be a good group of friends to hang out with.
Might have talked too much, laughed with what they said and mostly gave them positive emotions (not up and down, up and down like Alex says).
Got all of their Facebook's and the hotter twins number (8) at the end (She was begging us to stay, literally), didn't imply it was for a sexual reason, she was pretty drunk by the time we left so I just left it.
Text her this morning, no reply, I'm assuming she's throwing up in the bin at work

Night 9

2 HB 9/9
First set I saw so I ran across the road to open them, Asked them where they were going and talked about good places to go.
They were very teasing I was getting a huge amount of IOI's (thinking just to see if I would give them in return)
I teased back with "Oh please, like you'd know what to do with me" I saw attraction build, Went for the number close, she flirted and refused saying "If you want to see us again, meet us at **** at 1:30" I laughed and said no, she was an obvious validation whore.

Walked about on the Chode Patrol for a little while.. needed to jump into set..

opened 2 moderately old women, Dan teased for a while and I talked and had a little bit of a laugh, I did not want that set to go anywhere... So I left.

four 8/7/4/3
Dan and I were walking around in our heads for a long time..
Walked past a 4 set, I turned to Dan and said "You know what, fuck this shit, this is going to awkward as fuck but who cares"
So I ran in and opened very closely followed by Dan, we messed about with them for a little while teasing.
Walked about with them, I was arm in arm with the 8 teasing her and getting her to qualify, which worked to some extent. Let go of her arm and she reinitiated etc.
I stopped, turned my back to a wall and gestured to come here, she said No.
I tried to give her a freeze out by talking to her friends, I turn around, Dan had started flirting with her and teasing her..
Following on I whispered "dude what the fuck you're stealing my target"
We chatted them for another while and bailed.
A lesson on winging was learned

Night 10 - CHODES NIGHT OUT

Went to a pub, Dan300 was drinking, I was not, I had work in the morning so I just bailed.. complete chode out


Night 11 (Evolve, Dan300, derp)

LEAD TO LR - Learned more in one set than I have in weeks of sitting in the house

Promo girls 7/8
2 promo girls (didn't know they were promo on approach)
Opened with ("Hi girls, I'm tired so I thought id talk to random strangers, what you guys up to")
Very good set, quite unresponsive at first, pushed it as far as I could go to see what I could get away with, to test thresholds

She was complaining about being tired and having sore feet etc.. My response was "Geez all you girls fucking whinge about is sore feet, being tired and needing abortions.." they BURST out laughing and were so receptive after that... I was shocked, all my social conditioning is WRONG!

(Abortion Jokes etc) all were, surprisingly, very well received because I didn't seek a reaction, and was very unapologetic.. so important
Ended up getting tons of IOIs from the initial most unresponsive one, both had boyfriends, didn't eject early, stayed through the rough patches until Dan3000 and his wing basically took over my set and blew us all out (Hey we all learned from it)

Photo HB6 (possibly showed too much intent in practicing more direct line of game)
Girls were taking a photo, I jumped in and smiled for the camera, put my arm around the back of her and then lead her in a bit of physical push pull with things like "Who the fuck are you".
She was very receptive, Id move in closer, she'd move back, I'd move back, she'd move in.. etc..
She was trying to play but I literally didn't have the patience and think I went too 'aggressive direct' for too long without making a move, attraction faded.. didn't actually legitimately go for a K-close, not sure why.



HB8 - LEARNED FRAMING, passed shit tests, the girl from the LR
Dan and I were on the balcony looking over the crowd, searching for Derp.
I saw him with hb8 /hb7, he seemed to be doing well with hb8 (turns out they used to work together)

I wandered down the stairs (opened a promo girl, I told her she looked miserable, and said ""If I catch you frowning when I walk past again, you're in for it", which lead her to smile and wave every time I walked past, good fun)
I went over to derp and started talking to the HB7 (she was 4 years older than me)
She was quite unresponsive, so I joked with her and danced beside her to show her I didn't give a shit about what she thought. constantly pulling off terrible dance moves saying "I bet you can't dance for shit" she was actually very friendly.
Derp was trying to get the other girls Facebook, I started talking to her (He had a girlfriend of a few years I knew he wouldn't mind)
I was talking with hb8 and hb7 was saying "Stop hitting on my sister, she has a boyfriend.. blah blah" obviously cock blocking me. I responded with "I have a girlfriend, relax, I'm just a random friendly guy"
hb8 and I fluffed for a while, she was getting more attracted the more we spoke (despite the interruptions from her friend)
I was physically pushing, and pulling her (Pulling her in when she said something I liked, pushing her away playfully when she said something I didn't)
Frame control is so important.. Hb8 started saying halfway through me picking her up "you were hitting on my sister weren't you" I said "no don't be stupid" and she just kept bringing it up, when she brought it up again I just said "boring, (and as commanding as I possibly could) Where are you from" and she just forgot about the whole thing
Also.. All I remember was, she said things like "eew you do computing, you're a fucking nerd" so I responded, jokingly (Picturing Tyler Durden/Owen Cook) "Yea I'm a fucking nerd, you love it, you'd love to have your world rocked by a fucking nerd"
I did the same when she said "oh... so you're younger than me?" I replied with "Yea I'm younger than you, you love it, you can be my sugar momma.. take me to the Bahamas" she laughed.
to cut it short, I was kissing her, playing with her, got her number, arranged a day 2 the next day, she came over, had sex, profit. (Will write LR if requested)


Hold hands hb 6/4
Walking up the street after the place we were in closed,
Dan shouted "Hey girls, where are you going..?" they didn't respond "ok then, that's nice"
I walked up beside them and smiled saying "don't worry we're not following you"
The hb6 was my perfect personality girl.. she was amazing.
hard to describe, she was just throwing fun shit test after another, I barrelled through them, took her hand and we were holding hands for a little while, I didn't want it to go anywhere (standards too high..lawl)
Hugged, and departed.


Spent the rest of the night ridiculously opening everyone, pushing the limits having a laugh.


More to come, when I have the time to write it up...

Last edited by Evolve; 14-09-2013 at 10:55 AM.
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