okay so i was just bumming around the city centre and ended up bumping into a few friends, and one of them was off to buy alcohol to get drunk before he went to go meet up with some lass, but this guy is natural, and he has no fear of rejection, he must have talked to atleast 12 girls on the way to the tescos, and then the butch security guard stood near the door in tescos. We stopped for a cig after getting the drink and he was literally talking to every single woman that walked past, i've never seen anything like it in my entire life. Which got me trying to think in his mind set, i mean half the lasses that i meet on a night out i never see again, so while i was out last night partying at a small gay bar i adopted my friends way of thinking. While me and my friends was sat outside having a smoke some lass comes and sits down near us ranting and raving about something and then she kind of looks over at us and says that she might just go home, so i just say to her "fancy taking me with you". She is kind of stunned by this and is like "what? to party?" and i respond with "no to have sex" and she doesnt seem that shocked by this, my friends mouths are open in disbelief and im just sat there acting cool and collected. This lass then says "yeah, knowing my luck you'll be gay or something", to which my friends start laughing, i just say that im not and she tells me to prove it by pulling her, i just lean in and we start making out, and my friends instantly stop laughing. After we are done, my friend says to her "are you impressed?" and she is all shocked and says "yeah, very". She then runs off to her girly friends and is talking to them and they are all looking over and stuff, i finish my cig and go back inside. I think im going to try and adopt this devil may care attitude more often and take more risks, because im sure if a girl takes something the wrong way and gets deeply offended, that ill be able to talk myself out of it.

So what kind of mind sets do you get yourselves into when you go out on a night to sarge, or what mind set do you get yourself into when you day game?

So, you did you not end up fucking her?

nope lol but i did kiss close, thats enough for me, i mean my sticking point is getting numbers, so im going to be working on that mostly and then ill move on to fucking (Y)

Looking back on my own experience I really think I wasted a lot of time with stuff like focussing on dates, makeouts, numbers etc. when what I was really after was sex. The problem with that outlook is a number is just a number, and It can be given for a variety of reasons, many of which don't lead anywhere. The best attitude to take if you want to fuck girls is to focus on fucking girls first. After all that's what you want. That may seem like a harder, more intimidating way to look at it, but it'll get you where you want faster.

It's like the old finger pointing at the moon thing. Chasing after numbers is like staring at the finger instead of the moon.

Having said that, good job. The game you did was a lot ballsier than most guys, especially new ones.

thanks, and i get what your saying, but its kind of a personal goal to be able to get a girls number, because i feel like at the moment that its beating me, and i want to over come this hurdle

been telling everyone to do this for ages.

women are not all that shocked by it... i always just assumed if she is talking to me she wants me to fuck her

u need to remove the idea that its a stepping ladder.

learn to get numbers, learn to get a kiss, etc etc

u can go for either


1. Kiss
2. Fuck
3. Number

they all mean she must like u. and if a girl likes u, she is pretty much willing to have sex with u. so just go for the sex