Hey so basically my ex gf stayed over last night and slept in my bed. She has a boyfriend of like 2 years but i didn't give a fuck a seemingly so did she. I moved our situation from the couch to my bed and tried to initiate but she was being weird?? like we got down to our underwear, we cuddled and shit, and I even was rubbing her downstairs (under the panties) but thats all that happened! no kissing no hj, no oral, no sex? WHY? she kept saying I know why we cant have sex n stuff but why then am I aloud to caress her body and massger her p*ssy but not kiss? WTF? explain please, i just dont get women?

Desperate stuff.

Stop trying to fuck other people's girlfriends

Im not lool she wanted to come over???

And when she came over you were out for shit to go down, and she didn't wan't to. Then you came on here asking what you did wrong. It's pretty unambiguous that you were out to fuck her mate.

Whether or not she was on it isn't the point. The point is there's some guy on the other side of this who doesn't know you from adam and hasn't done shit to you, and the way you act has the potential to put that guy through a lot of pain. You dated this girl once, how would you have felt if this kind of thing had been happening behind your back? That, plus the drama you'll be getting yourself into should be enough to want no part of that. It's a scarce, shady, scummy way to conduct yourself.

You came onto a forum of players asking for advice, so here it is. Go out to a bar, put in work, find an unattached girl who likes you and take her home with you. There's fucking tons of them, trust me. That way you satisfy your need to get your end away without dragging yourself into dramatic bullshit and risking fucking up a 2 year relationship in the process.

Sorry for the harsh tone but seriously. This kind of shit pisses me off...

Im with this 100%

She obviously loves the drama and attention. She somehow justifies what she did as 'not cheating' just coz there was no actual acts... but let me assure u...

she cheated on him!!!! he certainly wouldn't go Oh... just underwear, thats fine.

also... whats with the Trying to have sex...

if a girl says gets to her underwear then says no. Tell her to get dressed and go home and come back when she knows what she wants.


its not difficult to see those with self respect.

Friend zone plane and simple