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Default Newbie Crash and Burn Report... - 13-10-2009, 12:14 PM

So, I had finally managed to memorize a few lines and openers, which I have picked up along the way. My friend rings me at about 5pm and asks if I feel like walking towards Leicester Square with him, as he wanted to hand out some C.Vs to shops. At this point I'm thinking this is a great opportunity to test out my game and skills, so I agree. Anyway, as we take a long walk hitting Camden Town first I admit to my friend that I've only Joined in on the job hunt because I am testing a few experiments out. I explained to him in minor detail, the PUA mentality and he pretty much agrees. Thing is we have been winging each other for years but on a very amateur level.

Anyway its time for a bit of splashing and kicking as i get blown out in the middle of Selfridges beautician dept. I had approached this 6 and just said hello! she just totally ignored me haha. I told my friend good, that's got the ball rolling, let the games begin. Cut a long story, we ended up back in Camden town and decide to go to a pub. Monday evening is dead, I can hear you thinking. You are right, but I needed to test this stuff out before I hit Uni this week. So, we find a seat with our pints in hand and just talk random shit. I spot this 2 set a couple of tables away and decide this is going to be the approach.My mate keeps going on that women think all men are the same, so I tell him that is the line we will use to open them. We finish our drinks and walk towards their table like we are leaving and walking past. As we reach their table I stop, and say 'sorry to interrupt your conversation but I was wondering if you guys think all men are the same'??? schoolboy error as when asking, both me and my mate are leaning on their table. When I realise this I pull back but my friend is just leaning and grinning like a hungry dog lol. the set asks why to my question so I tell them me and my friend were just talking about it and I thought a females opinion could shed some light on the subject. They oblige and say no all guys are different, my friend then asks where they are from as they both have foreign accents. Here comes the first shit test, Guess, says the less talkative moody one. I rolled my eyes getting bored as I tried a line about a dog pissing on my leg and neither laughed I knew this would be mission impossible. My friend was guessing, I don't even think they told us, so I ask them if they know any good local night spots? They suggest East London and I'm like East London we are in Camden?? so I ask them what they are doing out they say friendly drink, by now I am sooo uncomfortable.

As I am trying to exit one of them asks how long me and my friend have known each other, a question we had asked them before to which they answered... that's right, Guess. so when she asks the same he tells them its their turn to guess. Apart from the fact they had both mentioned that they were both married, which I struggled to believe. The air was so stale we had to get out of there. Funny thing was, sitting on a table right next to these girls were 2 other blokes who quickly came up to the door as we were leaving and were like, well done lads you did really well. Admiring the skills, lmao.

To wrap up the evening I try this 1 set, she is listening to her Ipod and I start pretending to talk sign language to her when she takes out her headphones. I almost burst out laughing, but said the same line. Do you think all guys are the same? She is like yeah definately, so i asked why and she says because of all the guys she has been out with. Eventually she crosses the road and walks off but I was close. Anyway first report out of the way, hope it wasn't too boring. Any tips and tricks welcome. Look forward to maybe sarging with some of you in the future.

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Default 13-10-2009, 12:27 PM

Good stuff mate. Trial and error is the only way you'll learn and taking every opportunity to get out the house and try things imperitive. I'd say to avoid those uncomfortable moments you seemed to have, try talking about stuff that excites, or at least interests you. Are you really that interested in the idea of girls find all guys the same? At least move onto stuff that does interest you if it is merely an opener.

I noticed you thought a lot about body language, 'Am I leaning' etc. Whilst body language is important it's not imperitive. Your overall attitude or 'frame' is what counts. If you are there worrying/thinking about your body language for one second you'll take your eye off the ball and the girl will more than likely recognise your insecurity about this. Concern yourself with being comfortable over everything else and the girl will more than likely follow suit.

Keep it up dude.


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Default 13-10-2009, 01:26 PM

First tip...

Use spaces between blocks of texts! It makes it easier to read.

As Nova says speak about things that interest you, that way you won't need to generate excitement as you already like it.
Also try and not edit what you are going to say just because she is an attractive girl, she'll get this all the from most men. So if you come along and just talk to her like you would one of your mates you'll be different and put her at ease.

Nova also speaks the truth about body language if you are constantly worrying about it then you'll come off as wooden, be aware of it but don't obsess about it.
I don't see anything wrong with leaning on their table as it shows you're confident and interested in them.


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Default 13-10-2009, 03:16 PM

Thanx for the advice, really helpful...


I will try and sort the text out in future

I agree with the statement about being too wooden

Hopefully I will get better results this evening but I
wont be hitting any bars, just street game..
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Default 13-10-2009, 08:43 PM

I say suggest not saying sorry for interrupting, a man with high status doesn't apologise for this actions, got straight in with the opener
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Default 03-11-2009, 01:46 PM

All the advice above sounds sweet, but correct me if I'm wrong guys- I'm a bit rusty, but to me asking a set where to go and what to do before they've hooked seems like a risky venture. You should be dragging them into your reality, not trying to be part of theirs.

Take the lead, say you're going to ........... it's dope, come down, if they snub it, roll off into conversation, get them laughing, suggest it again. Like I say I'm rusty, but you should portray a strong sense of what you want to do and where, other wise you're just another 2 guys with no ideas who want to tag along with them on their evening.
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Default Update: - 09-11-2009, 01:01 AM

Okay guys I wasn't sure whether to start a new post
so I'll just add to this and treat it like a progress journal.


Went out this weekend and surprisingly without really
thinking about it have managed to have an on weekend
it's crazy.

To start with I went out in search of a bar on Friday
with two mates, and found a little spot free entry but it was
dead. We walk in and there are a group of chicks on the dance floor.
One of them, swaying, starts calling me to come and dance, so I
do all had fun because my mates join in with the rest of the group
but we all sub-consciously agree that these drunk chicks are below par
so we leave.



Saturday night, I go with a mate of mine to meet
another mate who is with a group celebrating a birthday.
We all meet in a bar and go out to this big nightclub in town.
The place is packed and me and my two mates start commanding
our floor space. While we are dancing I started to notice our
energy being felt by everyone in the room and eventually chicks
start surrounding us.

Dancing right next to us is a group of about 6 HB7-9's
So my mate opens one and seems to be doing okay.
Meanwhile im killing the dance steps with my other mate
this HB9 starts dancing near us, but it was obvious she liked
one of us, your humble narrator of course. Anyway, the group that
my other mate has opened notice this other chick near me
and a dance off starts.. Lmao



I have witnessed this happen two weekends in a row
I think its amazing watching girls fight each other for attention.
Last week I didn't know how to approach while this kicked off
but this weekend was much easier... First I try to grab the HB9
but she starts playing the game, hard to get, so I walk away
come back and start dancing with one of the best out of the
group. N-close and I'm out almost K-closed but been texting
her all day today using some of Kowalski's texting post

N-closed another who was watching us dance and left the club and went onto the final venue.


Sorry about the length guys.

Get to the last spot and its just now me and my wingman again.
Basically two of us go to the first floor and I see an ex sugababes
member so I'm like, I have to try this or I will never forgive myself..
Walk up and im like... Lex:Hey wasup... Mutya:Hi Im okay Lex: (i cant believe what I am doing)
So you having a good time? who you here with?
Mutya: My friends.. Lex: Cool I might see you around yeah
maybe upstairs?... Mutya:Yeah sure.. Lex:


Okay, admittedly I didnt try a line, but... the fact that I even went up
to her and words came out of my mouth is a testament to the
amount of confidence I have gained since embarking on the
PUA path. Finish it off, I tried with loads of other girls, and
one girl I asked for directions to the toilets grabbed me by the
hand and dragged me into the girls room, If it wasn't for the
stupid mouthy woman in there complaining about it I might have
got some HB-8 aswell The chick also tries telling
me that she thought I was a hot lesbian who wanted to bang her
in the toilets, I'm like, I am I am.


Anyway progress is gradual but definately in motion
so had a great time.
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Default 09-11-2009, 11:54 AM

Nice progress it seems like you have a knack for the dancefloor which is pretty hard to learn if you don't get it. Just keep on at it, I liked the way you go for everything from dancing with the girls in the first bar to approaching Mutya. If you keep up this you'll do well.


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Default 09-11-2009, 09:11 PM

i think you've made some good progress.

experimentation, trial and error (previously mentioned) are all key.

my latest success came after a night of relentless trial and error.

i like your work-ethic, and you have guts.

remember to shed the 'apology' form youre opener. say...

"we want your opinion to settle our debate....'' gives them some sense of importance by helping you, and generates an open-ended debate! 'sorry to bother' comes across as timid and like they outrank you socially or something.

Otherwise very good, and well structured post, made for good reading!
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Default Update... - 05-12-2009, 02:55 PM

F-closed... Finally..
Look I am no expert but its Xmas and I think there
are loads of lonely girls out there willing to participate
in a bit of extra activity after work during the work
party/after-party.

My 2p is get yourself down to bars holding these events
and practice...

This was my method for last night and it worked.
It is the plan for tonight too.Hey why not push
the boat out


Anyway this should be a quick update...
Got invited to a mates xmas party in the city.
Went down with another mate (wing)-sort of, he
thinks you need loads of cash to get girls

We get into this bar and I must be ooozing
the stuff because this gay dude makes a pass
at me yuk.. anyway I start approaches mainly
within the large group we are invited into though,
as we are outsiders right.


Eventually sit down down drinking my juice
and I see this HB? alright Ill give her a 6
she is swaying my brothers like all horror-show like.
I give her the blueprint look Tyler talks about
she comes over, taps my shoulder so i just nod at her, neg.


Tapping me again I turn around this time and she is like,
"You are fit" I am thinking "You are Drunk"
So she asks me to kiss her?? just like that. I was in shock,
so I say "I don't do kissing on the first date" and she asks
if she can take me home.

I leave my mate who is stewing haha and I am off.
Back to hers and she tries to put up a little fight LMR
so I just ignore that, well I asked if I should go which
stopped her in her tracks. Do the dirty deed and leave
arriving home at around 6am.


Now I know most of you guys probably
see this as a cheat as i only awarded her a 6
plus the fact that she was doing the drunken master
stylee. But I had to start somewhere, also its a great tip
for the oncoming festivities. I think I am shedding the anxiety
approach ridden coat I have been wearing since my four year LTR and
can see light at the end of the tunnel.

Onwards and upwards...


P.S. Be aware of girls that bite I almost gave up, I hate
BITING
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