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Default Day game updates and such - - 22-09-2009, 02:35 PM

Hey people,

How's the day game going?

After a recent phone consultation (unpaid) with dearest Sapmi, I trust all is well in Manchester.

Recent FR is below. Could be useful for those learning, feedback could be too. For those who really shit themselves at this (as I used to), I can only recommend practice. I too am learning this. If you are really struggling to have natural and fluent conversation with a girl (while being confident) there is work to be done (ie, more practice).


Day game


I want to get good at this. Direct day game was very much outside my reality only a few months ago - (but actually I used to do a bit of indirect opening in the days before I knew about game).

Anyways, so I started off shitting myself at the prospect of doing this with a wing some months back, but now am able to do it alone. Still takes a great deal of motivation for me for some reason... Good to keep pushing the comfort zones.

I wrote down my sets - advice would be very much appreciated. All solo...

- 4 set in russel square (seated). I opened with a quick opinion opener about my new temporary tattoo - I wanted to rid my AA in this set. Some of the girls were into it, others weren't. A phone rang, the girl picked it up, I left.

-1 set. She opened me with directions. I transitioned (so, are you new here too?...) we talked for a while, friendly girl from argentina - a 6-7 at best. Good vibe - I email-closed for social circle.

q - can you really expect to pick friends up from day game?...

-1 set. Shit, a really hot girl - a 9!!! She is walking, and I cross a busy road to meet her, waiting a while for cars to pass (q - do you guys wait for a little bit of pavement space, or just go in?!). I open direct - about her style - I really like your style... ahh you're from a different country, that explains it. She was wearing shades, I ask to see her eyes (she lets me) - I think this is quite good, I felt behind a barrier with them on. Anyways, we talk for a while, and then she suggests 'want to get a coffee?' - sure! an insta-date then. I ask someone on the street where to go (possible DLV, but done in a fun way), and we head there. I felt the insta-date was OK - laughs and some comfort, but not as tight as I thought it could be. Hmmm... Didn't really feel like it 'hooked' naturally. Hmm.... Anyways, we number close, and I give her my facebook too. I texted her 10 minutes after meeting (I read that on here somewhere), and say I'll text her next week about doing something fun. No reply. The set isn't dead yet I guess (I'll send one more text), but it might make me reconsider insta-dates. That brew was fucking foul!

q - perhaps I was a bit nervous, but any tips for insta-dates? And are they really necessary?... after two such flakes, Abdul Jabber (london person) doesn’t bother with them anymore.

-1-set. tall hot european girl. I open direct, but she keeps walking - quicky. 'Thank you!' and she keeps momentum up, and pretty much runs away. Fair enough. Perhaps I could have stopped her more effectively, but anyways, she is gone.

-1-set, standing next to bench containing two chodes. The guys will hear my direct opener, but I need to open anyway. I do, about her style, elaborated a bit about the specifics of it. She is a tourist, from japan. Going to meet a friend somewhere I'm heading to. I walk her there. Later, we check the map, and there is some playful kino (her hand is even on my lap). She is staying at a friend's place, is only here for a few days, and I have shit on in the next few nights. With no phone or email, this is a trickey set. I want to escalate and f-close fast, but not sure how. Anyways, I tell her to call me tomorrow, and suggest staying at my place. Hmmm....

q- any advice on these sets? Tough logistics but potential of no-strings fun (even if the girl doesn't appear too open). Perhaps I'll try Yad's/Bugsy's sexual fantasy stuff.

-1-set in BFI - clear 9 (asian). She having a meal, and appears to be alone. Mwuahaha! I go to the toilet, and vow to open if she is still there (after food it eaten). She is, and I open direct. 'A cute girl alone, I had to come and speak to you!'. I take a seat next to her, and we talk. We talk about what she does, and about what I do. And about life here. The set goes well. I facebook close, talk a bit more, then leave. Good set.

I then go to a dance class with Abdul Jabber from the lss (but I think he's left now, he has enough women and the skills he needs!). No targets, but my dancing is improving. Cool. It is a DLV in this kind of context to not be able to dance. All the smooth guys in there whisk the girls off their feet, and I can't even do the basic steps. But it is probably good for inner confidence. The opposite of situational confidence! I have fun and meet people, and start to make connections.

Outside, we wander, and try to find some lss pros he knows (Mystel?....). We couldn't find them. Anyways,

-an asian 3-set is leaving a bar - I open direct, but the set barely hooks - perhaps I was a millisecond too late, perhaps I should have been louder. Perhaps it was just one of those sets. Anyways, a cock block drags the target away.... We keep walking, they are being so cute - and I tell them that (holding hands etc). They look horrified. We keep walking. I open indirect about my temporary tattoo (which is in chinese), they stay for a bit, but the cock block keeps dragging. We keep walking, I don't re-open (but I kind of want to...!!).
q - not sure how to deal with that kind of cockblock. She was militant. Suggestions?

-Asian 1-set, walking opposite way to us on a calm street in central. Abdul Jabber points her out. Wow, she is a clear 8 to me! Ok, I will open direct (cool, months ago I would be nervous, but this time I was kind of excited). We walk back towards her (she is carrying shopping), and I let a few other passers by get out of the immediate proximity. I open direct, about her style (more specific this time, and she lights up at the specifics). I continue the set (I told and expected my wing to make himself scarce, but he hangs around, so I bring him into the set). This seems weird to me, two men going direct on a lone shopper!? Anyways, I vibe with her (about me being the friendliest in london and her being the second cutest). Me and wing demonstrate some dancing. We suggest we go to a bar, she declines. She says she has to go, but actually stays. I am about to say 'OK...' but wing re-opens. I facebook close and we go our separate ways. A good vibe.


So, feedback and such would be great.

I tend to go for facebook for smaller closes, because (and with this I think especially for asian girls), it is less scarey for them, and my facebook gives them some DHV about me. Thoughts welcome. I want to keep developing this skillset, and not sure what a 1-on-1 could offer me (feel free to let me know if you think otherwise - PM etc). I really want to be in a place where I keep improving at it. I also think I need to slow down my speech (I am a quick talker).

To be honest, I went out just to game. I didn't enjoy it too much, especially alone. Found the motivation to do it tough, but I knew I should battle through it. Anyone actually enjoy doing this? Perhaps better to make it part of something normal.

Caught between two minds - knowing that solo will really improve my game, and knowing that it is more fun with others.


Cheers

AnthonyD
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Default 22-09-2009, 05:21 PM

Heard a lot about you Anthony. I feel your pain. Please tell me it's worth the pain!!
Actually, I have started to enjoy it, at least when you're out having a laugh anyway. Keep going and keep us updated.
You may be my inspiration. (did that sound gay?)
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Default 22-09-2009, 06:33 PM

Awesome report Anthony, you clearly like your Asians!! as does Nova, you and Nova should share tactics, you'd be a formidable force together!!


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Default 23-09-2009, 10:27 AM

cheers for the props people, and cheers for the advice kowalski.

This forum is very good, and the community sense is very strong. A friendly bunch, and a good climate for learning. There is no such community in london! (those that PM'd me about London meetups, or to watch me in action (as uninspiring as that sounds to me), bear with me).

I've heard people continually going on about the importance of pauses in speech... to... build... sexual.... tension.... So I will try to ride that wave.

I guess I'm improving - I suppose so!

I hear what you're saying about doing other shit.

I think more and more that everything is subcommunicated. You are having a great day, being social; this is subcommicated. You are confident, and have a good life; this is subcommunicated. You in good physical shape, and are healthy; this is subcommunicated.

You are going out solo, asking girls for advice about what clothes to get for your non-existent niece, so you can run game on them; this can be subcommunicated!

But conversely, I want to get the actual practical parts of it down too, so that’s why I’m pushing it quite a bit just now.

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Cool And yes, the fun times I've had have been definately worth the pain.

Anthony
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Default 23-09-2009, 01:28 PM

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This forum is very good, and the community sense is very strong. A friendly bunch, and a good climate for learning. There is no such community in london! (those that PM'd me about London meetups, or to watch me in action (as uninspiring as that sounds to me), bear with me).
You could be the one to orchestrate the London wing of this forum, you've certainly got the knowledge and experience to teach the newbies. You could even start some improv!


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Default 23-09-2009, 01:33 PM

In supermarket today, not looking good (with glasses on etc), but it's all in the frame, right?... perhaps….

- cute vietnamese 2-set, opened direct! with people around (who will hear!). Went well - managed to get the potential cock-block on board. Will see where the close goes. Potential neighbour/friends/social circle. Who cares! Numbers game, remove the ego, abundance, and developing a skill set.

- eating chicken in a cheap as fuck chicken place. Opened the large black man sitting opposite me - something situational about the price of chicken these days. A wry smile, but then I was immediately blown out.

haha, maybe I should have paused more !

So, Jinxy, Sapmi, Darood, and Retro, what are you doing? – you can’t get much worse than that second set!
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