Day game updates and such - -
22-09-2009, 02:35 PM
Hey people,
How's the day game going?
After a recent phone consultation (unpaid) with dearest Sapmi, I trust all is well in Manchester.
Recent FR is below. Could be useful for those learning, feedback could be too. For those who really shit themselves at this (as I used to), I can only recommend practice. I too am learning this. If you are really struggling to have natural and fluent conversation with a girl (while being confident) there is work to be done (ie, more practice).
Day game
I want to get good at this. Direct day game was very much outside my reality only a few months ago - (but actually I used to do a bit of indirect opening in the days before I knew about game).
Anyways, so I started off shitting myself at the prospect of doing this with a wing some months back, but now am able to do it alone. Still takes a great deal of motivation for me for some reason... Good to keep pushing the comfort zones.
I wrote down my sets - advice would be very much appreciated. All solo...
- 4 set in russel square (seated). I opened with a quick opinion opener about my new temporary tattoo - I wanted to rid my AA in this set. Some of the girls were into it, others weren't. A phone rang, the girl picked it up, I left.
-1 set. She opened me with directions. I transitioned (so, are you new here too?...) we talked for a while, friendly girl from argentina - a 6-7 at best. Good vibe - I email-closed for social circle.
q - can you really expect to pick friends up from day game?...
-1 set. Shit, a really hot girl - a 9!!! She is walking, and I cross a busy road to meet her, waiting a while for cars to pass (q - do you guys wait for a little bit of pavement space, or just go in?!). I open direct - about her style - I really like your style... ahh you're from a different country, that explains it. She was wearing shades, I ask to see her eyes (she lets me) - I think this is quite good, I felt behind a barrier with them on. Anyways, we talk for a while, and then she suggests 'want to get a coffee?' - sure! an insta-date then. I ask someone on the street where to go (possible DLV, but done in a fun way), and we head there. I felt the insta-date was OK - laughs and some comfort, but not as tight as I thought it could be. Hmmm... Didn't really feel like it 'hooked' naturally. Hmm.... Anyways, we number close, and I give her my facebook too. I texted her 10 minutes after meeting (I read that on here somewhere), and say I'll text her next week about doing something fun. No reply. The set isn't dead yet I guess (I'll send one more text), but it might make me reconsider insta-dates. That brew was fucking foul!
q - perhaps I was a bit nervous, but any tips for insta-dates? And are they really necessary?... after two such flakes, Abdul Jabber (london person) doesn’t bother with them anymore.
-1-set. tall hot european girl. I open direct, but she keeps walking - quicky. 'Thank you!' and she keeps momentum up, and pretty much runs away. Fair enough. Perhaps I could have stopped her more effectively, but anyways, she is gone.
-1-set, standing next to bench containing two chodes. The guys will hear my direct opener, but I need to open anyway. I do, about her style, elaborated a bit about the specifics of it. She is a tourist, from japan. Going to meet a friend somewhere I'm heading to. I walk her there. Later, we check the map, and there is some playful kino (her hand is even on my lap). She is staying at a friend's place, is only here for a few days, and I have shit on in the next few nights. With no phone or email, this is a trickey set. I want to escalate and f-close fast, but not sure how. Anyways, I tell her to call me tomorrow, and suggest staying at my place. Hmmm....
q- any advice on these sets? Tough logistics but potential of no-strings fun (even if the girl doesn't appear too open). Perhaps I'll try Yad's/Bugsy's sexual fantasy stuff.
-1-set in BFI - clear 9 (asian). She having a meal, and appears to be alone. Mwuahaha! I go to the toilet, and vow to open if she is still there (after food it eaten). She is, and I open direct. 'A cute girl alone, I had to come and speak to you!'. I take a seat next to her, and we talk. We talk about what she does, and about what I do. And about life here. The set goes well. I facebook close, talk a bit more, then leave. Good set.
I then go to a dance class with Abdul Jabber from the lss (but I think he's left now, he has enough women and the skills he needs!). No targets, but my dancing is improving. Cool. It is a DLV in this kind of context to not be able to dance. All the smooth guys in there whisk the girls off their feet, and I can't even do the basic steps. But it is probably good for inner confidence. The opposite of situational confidence! I have fun and meet people, and start to make connections.
Outside, we wander, and try to find some lss pros he knows (Mystel?....). We couldn't find them. Anyways,
-an asian 3-set is leaving a bar - I open direct, but the set barely hooks - perhaps I was a millisecond too late, perhaps I should have been louder. Perhaps it was just one of those sets. Anyways, a cock block drags the target away.... We keep walking, they are being so cute - and I tell them that (holding hands etc). They look horrified. We keep walking. I open indirect about my temporary tattoo (which is in chinese), they stay for a bit, but the cock block keeps dragging. We keep walking, I don't re-open (but I kind of want to...!!).
q - not sure how to deal with that kind of cockblock. She was militant. Suggestions?
-Asian 1-set, walking opposite way to us on a calm street in central. Abdul Jabber points her out. Wow, she is a clear 8 to me! Ok, I will open direct (cool, months ago I would be nervous, but this time I was kind of excited). We walk back towards her (she is carrying shopping), and I let a few other passers by get out of the immediate proximity. I open direct, about her style (more specific this time, and she lights up at the specifics). I continue the set (I told and expected my wing to make himself scarce, but he hangs around, so I bring him into the set). This seems weird to me, two men going direct on a lone shopper!? Anyways, I vibe with her (about me being the friendliest in london and her being the second cutest). Me and wing demonstrate some dancing. We suggest we go to a bar, she declines. She says she has to go, but actually stays. I am about to say 'OK...' but wing re-opens. I facebook close and we go our separate ways. A good vibe.
So, feedback and such would be great.
I tend to go for facebook for smaller closes, because (and with this I think especially for asian girls), it is less scarey for them, and my facebook gives them some DHV about me. Thoughts welcome. I want to keep developing this skillset, and not sure what a 1-on-1 could offer me (feel free to let me know if you think otherwise - PM etc). I really want to be in a place where I keep improving at it. I also think I need to slow down my speech (I am a quick talker).
To be honest, I went out just to game. I didn't enjoy it too much, especially alone. Found the motivation to do it tough, but I knew I should battle through it. Anyone actually enjoy doing this? Perhaps better to make it part of something normal.
Caught between two minds - knowing that solo will really improve my game, and knowing that it is more fun with others.
Cheers
AnthonyD
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