Was just thinking on a first date basis. Number closing not an issue. So far, my game has been condusive to escalating in bars where i can shift a girl to a place where i can be comforatabley kino side-by-side. Just dont have enough places on my list.

Had almost 100% success using this approach . Before doing this i was taking a girl on dinners which was completely rubbish as you have a table in front of you. Learnt this the hard way.

Its about finding your own game and how it suits you. This definately works for me.

Does anyone have any suitable London venues?