Gentlemen, I'd like you to share some of your epiphany and Eureka! moments, when did you notice things clicking into place? begin getting successes? begin to see the 'Matrix' etc... What conclusions did you come to? and have these conclusions been the basis of your game thereafter?

For me personally back in 2009 when I first met Kowalski and Jynx that was a huge turning point. Nova and I had been studying, reading, watching and trialing routine based game, it was all we knew. It was a safety blanket for us but at the same time also a shackle because the intricacies of it all and the need to remember so many lines/routines made it overly complex and burdensome.

Kowalski and Jynx showed us another way, being Socially Awesome! For Nova and I this was a real shake-up to our reality, a head-fuck initially but slowly the shackles began to release themselves.

However my greatest epiphany I probably owe to Jaz, I was out with the guys one night in Manchester and I was still clinging on to using indirect openers, the thought of going direct made me feel like i'd have to combat AA all over again! Jaz took me to one side pointed out a girl to me at the bar in white figure-hugging dress and he asked me what I thought of her.

I said,'she's hot'
'Go and tell her so' Jaz told me.

I froze with fear, after some deliberating I went over and told her so. It wasn't a great approach I was stiffled in my delivery, I didn't have full belief in my own honesty. She thanked me for my compliment....I shuffled away.

However the sense of accomplishment was epic, being honest and open with your intentions to girls, really isn't that bad after all!!!

I'd love to hear the stories from other guys here. Routine based game, Direct, Natural or otherwise please share those moments with us when things just 'clicked'.