The guy was doing his best to defend his group but unreactivity combined with social energy meant that we could reframe it into a pretty sound interaction. Initially some serious amogging "Are you guys still here, nobody cares, lets go, hey do you know who this guy looks like? etc" Jamm had the motherhen trying to interject "Um, hey, um" *tugs sleeve of target* "Hey err..um" Eventually she moved the group to a small table and we were left at the bar. The target liked Jamms convo though, she was completely into it. I made chit chat with the Amog after blatantly ignoring his defensive comments and attempts to tool us. A cool night, I started by sitting next to a couple of 9/10s in the smoking area and losing their interest in about 3 seconds. After that things went better and more 6,7,8's were happy to talk to us.