just had a look at the twelve step thing.

ok right kowalski even though say religion is stupid, The twelve step program can work if you are purposefully believing in A god you know probably doesn't exist just to help you quit.

Much like for instance I had a toothache then took a couple of pain killers and the pain vanishes instantly even though I know for a fact that unless I mainline it it's not gonna take effect that quick. So it's a placebo......but I know it shouldn't work but yet the placebo still works.

so you could infact create a false belief on purpose to help you overcome something.

If eating shit cured me of aids I'd eat it. you dig?