thanks holmes. might try that out. To be honest i posted this a while back now and i think im over it. As it turns out, doing squats with dumbells (which i mentioned i was doing at the tart of the thread) is in itself a good way to improve grip strength. Plus ive developed calouses (or however u spell it) on my hands now. So basically i was just partly being impatient and mostly just being a faggot.

Phenom, where do ya train? im a predators in manchester.