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Default 02-12-2010, 12:19 AM

Thursday 25 November and Friday 26 November (rolls into 1 here)

Ok back in the game and with the Version 3 (30 days before Christmas here)

Met some guys from this forum. Here's how it went....

196) Go off to toilet and on the way back ask some girl which way Leicester Sq is, I'm disorientated. We chat for a bit. Goes quite well, but she is with her family. I ask best way to contact her - FB close. Hmm weak.

197) Guess where some girls are from (4 of them). Again nice and flirty chat, but not so keen on any of them really.

Go back to my wings. I play a game with one of them where we have to high 5 as many people in the club as possible. Definitely quite funny and gets your heart going. Felt a bit weird though. Don't think anyone fancied me more after doing this!

198) We split. Go into Tiger Tiger. My wings complain that they have AA. I say 'look if you have AA just start easy and go directional into a nice chat to start off with. Easy, I will show you how...'
'Hi guys...'
'What' I am cut off by an alpha bald man.
Opps I have just approached a family eating dinner!
'Erm we were looking for somewhere not so touristy to go to (or something like that).....'
He proceeds on giving me directions to some club for the next 5 minutes and tells me it is obvious we are looking for women.
And that wings is how you do a directional approach..... (I may have just given them a incurable case of AA here!)

199) Wing still complaining of AA. I will now show you a situational opener. 'Hey do you know if the band is on'. We talk about this. I guess wrongly where she is from. I say Sweden, but she is German. She studys at my old Uni, so we talk about that. We talk about sausages (they love em apparently and so do I!), I tease her about stuff, we talk about the differences between English and German men appoaches, we trade off bad pick up lines. I should have N Closed here really. Later when we leave I go to find her, but the band is playing and she is dancing away. Also her dancing shows she has been eating slightly more sausages than she should of perhaps and I urge on the side of lets get out of her comrades!

200) And now my trusty wings I shall how you the dreaded direct approach! 'Hi, we were just leaving but I think you're stunning and thought I should tell you' 'What?' 'repeat opener in a slightly embarrassed way' - her friends and my wings are watching! 'what I am ze French one' (I think also something not good was said too here that I can't remember), 'lets go wings'....... Fuck me who do I think I am tonight Mysterious Neil X Durden or something!!! Lets stop trying to show off (badly) and have my own learning experience here!

201) Some Aussie chick about her hat. Not really that impressed with me. I tease her a bit and she doesn't bite. I tell her 'most Aussies are more...... you know', she says 'What little waste of space worm man' (ok she didn't say this, but she might as well have), 'you know a little more upbeat!', she looks at me like I just pissed on her chicken. I leave. I tell my wing she hated me. Mine too he says. Hmmmm.

202) Some Spanish hottie about band who can't understand me. Hot as hell (apparently my wing had opened her too to no avail).

203) Some Irish girls about something. Doesn't go too well. Later my wing re-opens them and does a lot better I go back in and they are very responsive. I don't think they even knew it was the weird opening guy from before. Spend a bit of time with them, but I get bored and go off.

204) A suspect looking Latino approaches me. She approaches me again a few minutes later and announces to all that she thinks I am beautiful and is very excited because gingers make amazing lovers or something. 'Thanks'. Now she was really in my face and trying to kiss me. Now any fans of this thread will know I would give my little ginger ball sack to sleep with a Latino woman right now, but woman is stretching it in this case. Snake Eyes has been down this road before and it didn't turn out good. I'm off to give my amazing love to someone else! I run! I think (s)he may have read Mode 1! Bit creepy if you ask me.....

205) Another Spanish one. Think I just said hello. She is talking about how Spanish men are more passionate than English men. I should have used this to my advantage, grab her spin her around and make beautiful love to her all over the club table, but I am exhausted and in that moment inclined to agree with her (only in that moment though guys : ) ). Also she seems quite interested in the, possibly Spanish, barman.

206) Hello. Hot Dutch or Swedish. Goes ok, but gets a bit boring and they leave.

207) Ok this set was opened earlier in the night by my wing, but this is where it starts to get interesting. Re-open the girl I had chatted to earlier. We are getting on great. She really sparks some life into me. It gets to the point where I should be thinking about kissing. I ask her about British men. I ask her if she's a good kisser. I jokingly say that I have never kissed anyone. She asks me about Americano (19) (I told her all about her). I say we just had sex, no kissing (silly stuff really that she finds funny, but isn't getting me to kiss her). I later find out that she found these kissing routines very see through and unattractive.
Then I hit gold. She is rabbiting on and instead of thinking about routines I just say what's on my mind 'Fuck me you talk a lot'. She is astounded, but in a good way. 'Wow, people aren't usually so blunt with me, but I like it'. I say 'Am I making you nervous or something' (jokingly). 'What no, ok, maybe a little, no wait no one ever makes me nervous. Hang on, why are you making me nervous. I'm still talking too much aren't I....'. Fuck the K close, she's coming home with me tonight. We slam a few yeagers. She is a hot shot defence lawyer from Texas. The club closes. I say we should go for a drink somewhere else. She agrees. I go to get my coat.

208) F Book close, coat girl. I have lost this, but probably for the best - I think she had hairy arms.

Back to 207), we leave. Say good bye to her friends. We walk for a bit. I can't think of any places near that are open except for the dodgy casino....'Taxi'
'How much'
'£20'
'How about £15'
'£20'
'£18?'
'£20'
'£20 it is, lets go'

Right that was pointless! Back to The Snake Pit!. We get off at mine. 'This is a strange bar'. 'This is my place, we're going to have a drink here' I say. We have a rum and ginger beer in the kitchen. 'Lets go upstairs'. We do. Wow, she looks a lot better naked than I thought she would. She tries to give me LMR, but I just tell her not to be silly (God bless America, give them a finger and they completely forget about this - Poland could learn a lot from this (see previous thread!!). Sex is ok. Makes me think about all girls I've had sex with and how different each one is. There really is a compatibility there with some people and not with others however hard you work at it. I always used to think it was down to a) my confidence and b) their promiscuity. Both of these were present here, but I just didn't get lost in it like I did the 3 in October. It wasn't bad or anything, but just something I noticed. Anyway a mute (moo) point.

Friday 26 November and Saturday 27 November (rolled into 1)

(207), (hmm she deserves a name I think - Americano Version 2), stays until early afternoon. She is still loud, but lovable. Maybe see her again. She leaves Tuesday though.

Go to meet a new wing very late in the evening.

209) Street. directional/club. Doesn't really go anywhere.

210) Queue chat.

211) 2 set Queue chat - goes on in the coat queue. Can't seem to hook though. I say I like here necklace, 'thanks', but not so keen on her earings a bit big. Text book push pull. Silence. Stupid text book! I see 2 guys doing quite well with these 2 later as well.

212) Polish girls on the stairs. Goes quite ok, should probably have stayed for a bit. I have too much history with this country now. As much as I love the nation, Poland just won't fuck me!

213) Fit fit Irish girls (2). I say I like her dress. She says it's a top. I tease her about stuff. We get on well. She tells me to tell her friend she looks like Cheryl Cole. I shouldn't have, but I do. She remains hooked though. We have our pictures taken. She buys a key ring from the guy. I do to (shouldn't have done this either). Is all very flirty, but they need moving somewhere. My wing tries to get in on the photo action and it goes a bit stale. They go off to the bathroom and that is the last I see of them. Man they were fit - balls. Later in the evening I go to collect my little key ring and they give me hers as well. I take it. Ha ha now who's laughing bathroom girls! I have your key ring! I am a petty petty little man who has just stolen a key ring off a nice girl. In my defence I thought we might bump into them later. These key rings will act as a cruel reminder to move girls around once its getting stale!

214) Direct on perhaps the only English girls in the club. I feel they are taking the piss a bit so don't have time for them.

215) Dance floor. Goes no where. I see about 5 other PUAs all going after the same girls. They are surrounding them and all acting like dogs on heat. The girls are creeped out and so am I.

216) American girl queue. Turns out she went to Uni where I spent some time in Atlanta. We get on great and I invite her for food. She does (with her friend and my wing). We have a good time and the English American chat works a dream as always. I take her number. Hint at going back to there hotel, but they ain't having it and saying they need a taxi. I then do something that is very out of character and I felt very bad about. I think that I leave them there, not even walking them to a taxi or taxi rank. Now this may not seem that bad to you, but I am a gentleman and I think you should make sure a girl gets home safe, especially when she is a foreigner in the middle of the night in a strange country. The only reason I didn't was I thought it would look better and nonchalant if we just left in a a 'game like' mentality. I want to be good at getting with girls, but I am a good guy and don't want to lose that. Stay true to yourself!

I think there were a lot more above, but I can't remember them.

Saturday 28 November

I meet up with the Americans from last night (216) and show them around for a bit. We go to the pub later on and are having a great time. I think they both fancy me a bit judging by how they react, but my wing is now 5 hours late (yes you heard) and it is very difficult to isolate the one I want. He eventually arrives, but it is now quite friendly between us all. To add to this my one appears to be not that promiscuous and I can't see how I am going to bed her that night. Plus it is freezing when we leave the pub and not sexy. The one I don't want says she has stuff to do the next day and needs to get back and my one follows suit. My wing buggers off again. I should push for mine to come to a club, but I don't. When we say bye, both of the girls hug me (separately) for far longer than is usual. I think they both like me a lot, but it is more friendly now. They say they want to see me the next day, but I am busy. They have left the country now.

Perhaps I should have pushed for the club, perhaps I should have been more direct, perhaps I should have not cared too much about including the other one and isolated mine a bit more, but to be honest I was feeling a friendly vibe as well. I am not desperate to fuck mine and to try could have ruined the day that I had actually really enjoyed, regardless of lack of sex. Would have been nice to have 2 of our American friends in a week (possible 3 if I was really on form - 3some perhaps), but it was still a very positive experience for me. Also I feel at complete peace with myself over the taxi incident!

Sunday 29 November

217) Tube - Crappy line about when the run to or something.

218) As above

219) As above

This is bullshit - I am learning nothing. It is too cold for this and I think 5 a day is actually hindering my game. I find myself going out as a chore a lot of the time and I am in the grey zone a lot. I have no down time and it is seriously effecting other areas of my life. Plus did I mention it is so f'ing cold!!

I think hard (but not that long) about it and decide to stop. I will still update this thread, but it will be back to normal. I only expect to go out a few days/nights per week and not push myself too much. It is silly if it isn't helping. I may try this again in the Summer as I now kind of have a bee in my bonnet about actually completing this, but for now its not good for me. I fail...... again!

Monday 30 November

Go to meet Americano V2 in her hotel room in Kinightsbridge. She gives me a boner instantly when I see her in her little dress. Wow, for a girl who didn't think I even fancied originally, she sure does have a good effect on me. I probably should have ravished her right there, but I want dinner first! We go out, first to the pub, but there is no chef. After much walking in the cold we finally see a place. We dash in and get a table and a menu. As her eyes scan the wine list I see her eyes look astonished, what's up I think....oh fuck the cheapest wine is £30. This place is expensive. Opps! Oh well, we have fun. It costs us both a lot, but its good to splash out every now and then as long as you aren't doing it to impress anyone. We go back to her hotel. I decide I fucking love Americans and want to marry one. Not this one, that's for sure, but defiantly one of them. I just love hanging out with them. Americano V1, this one and the 2 from Saturday all just give me a very contented feeling and I find our personalities gel very well (very different, but I think this helps). I find myself acting my best and also like my true self around them. I really like this and wish I could be like this all the time (which is what I am striving for). Obviously I have only experienced a small pecentage of their population, but based on that I fucking love them! Maybe it's being brought up on American TV or the fact I went to Disneyland at a very early age, but I have definitely developed some sort of Americanism fetish, which is nice because most people seem to give them a hard time and say bad things about them (which in many cases is probably still true, but I love them crazy Yanks for it). Vegas here I come haha!

I had a moment of clarity as I was doing this American girl (207) jockey style in her Kensington hotel room, leaning over her slightly, cupping her fake bosoms in my hands whilst stroking my tongue up her back. All my really positive experiences with women have always been from me just acting myself. I knew this already, but it really hit home here. When I'm in PUA mode I make a lot of approaches, get numbers and maybe kisses, but the sex and the real connections with girls comes when I just relax and stop thinking about stuff. Firstly canned lines are phoney and see through and above all else not me. I think maybe its good to have some sort of opener still in emergency and knowing the theory behind why certain techniques work is good, but when your in that what I call 'PUA mode' it is very obvious and try hard (for me at least). I guess this is the difference between been inside and outside your head. I think that takes us too.....

LESSONS LEARNT

1) I think this 5 a day thing is good, but it does have serious drawbacks. One of my biggest problems is I think to much and this fucks me up. 5 a day doesn't help this. Also I become completely outcome orientated. I am constantly thinking about my field reports and results when talking to women which is not a healthy attitude. I had a great time with those American girls on Saturday and really wasn't that arsed about sleeping with them. However, the ego within and my worries about writing it on here initially made me very annoyed I hadn't 'tried different stuff on them'. This is silly! I don't need to impress anyone, as long as I am happy within myself.

Now don't get me wrong, I want to be good with women, as I believe this will make me a happier person. I love my little whirlwind romances I have. However, when I'm doing this 5 a day thing I am not that happy a person after a few days. I become an objective obsessed weirdo which is not good. Will I do this challenge again. Yes probably, as I do feel I should complete things I start and I do want to test the 30 day rule theory. Also in the Summer it won't involve walking around alone on the cold dark streets of London as much (which is weird and eeerily similar to Jack the Ripper - besides the whole killing prostitutes thing). However, it will not be at the expense of my happiness.

2) This has been said time and time again on here! Don't get too caught up in PUA material. Have a few openers lined up just in case and maybe listen to some stuff to know why what you're doing is working or not working, but do not go out using and copying lines you have read out of a book. This will not develop you as a person and is likely to fall flat on its face after a while. However....

3) ....still be aware of things. e.g. I should have known to move those Irish girls (213) to a different location to keep them interested. My key rings will make sure I never forget this valuable lesson!

4) I've noticed a pattern with my social relationships. When I initially meet people/join a new group of some sort (PUA in this case) I am initially very positive and excited. I feel very free and it makes me feel good. However, after a while I become worried about how I am acting around people and feel like I am being judged. My ego also inflates and I want to impress. This leads to me feeling trapped and a bit helpless (not really reached that yet with PUA or anyone off here, but other social groups). I run away and start fresh with new people. I have always had a problem sticking within friendship groups and after while I move onto new ones. Even my core group I have been friends with for years I don't want to be a part of right now and it has been noticed. Whilst it's good to be sociable and have many fingers in many pies it's weird that I feel friends are holding me back in some way and want to leave them. I'm not sure if this is unique to me or a thing people can relate to - I would be interested for your comments.

5) Remember this is a PUBLIC forum guys (bit rich coming from me, but hey)! A lot of people have been reading these threads. It was quite weird meeting new people last week and them knowing about girls I had slept with etc! Also I felt a bit on show. Please guys, if anyone meets me from here, I'm not here to teach you. Do not come out just to watch me. Come out to go on the pull with me and try stuff yourself by all means though!

6) Work hard and trust your instincts. Most of my success in life has come from when I apply these two things. Most of my failures come when I ignore one of both of these. Applies to game (including stuff I have written about above) and all other areas of my life.

and finally

7) I don't normally name Wings here, but I feel this must be said - Rebus gets you laid - fact!!
Americano V2 was a girl from a set he originally opened. Thanks man! I might never have talked to her if it wasn't for you engaging their group! In fact I think he assisted getting another guy from here laid that night too!!
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