thats sound advice phil, I know it would not be cool to move in in that situation. I was just enjoying the social dynamics of the situation. he looked like a really chilled out guy and ofcourse I wouldnt want to offend him or anything. however if I met her by herself and I didnt know him and had the skills to pick her up, I probably would. in that reality he's just a statistic, he;s just some guy I dont kno. sorry also if I'm posting too much on the forum btw, I'm just excited about getting into this stuff.