thanks from both of you i no i need to be more natural, that is my problem im thiking too much and these are great starters in the moment my brain just dosent function what to say but with my friends im like the most witty guy youll meet its not like im not confident either i would go up to a girl and say littrally anything but the thing is when in there i cant think of anything its strange but i like them openers its something to start me on thanks.