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Originally Posted by Dr_Zed
Hi all,
This thread addresses guys who approach loads (like 1000 sets or more a year) and get basically nowhere. No action, no dates, or sometimes even no contact details (though the 3 of these have fundamentally different reasons why). In the realms of cold approach, most guys start to see results steadily improve on a month by month basis. Tom Torero claimed in his "Beginners Guide to DayGame" that it take around 2 years to get consistent action.
A lot of pickup advice out there has focused on "techniques" whilst having a socially appealing lifestyle yet doing both cold and warm approaches. However, a lot of it fails to address a big thing - the guys out there, who are not considered "normal." Autism, chronically anxious guys, low social awareness, men who cannot make friends etc. You only have to look at cases like First Person Approacher and Dan Cilley who have published their persistently low par results, to see that guys like that need long term coaching.
In fact, the best advice I've lately seen is removing eccentric traits, rather than focusing on techniques. In many ways, game is more about removing things you do wrong, than getting things right.
Thoughts?
Z
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long term coaching is not practical. most guys who enter the pick up scene usually do so later in life, after failing at being themselves. another thing is, the older you are, the harder it is for you to change. so if youre 30, it's pretty much too late for most. your reproductive years are also very limited, so by the time you figure it all out, you're already out of the dating market. if you look at the vast majority of couples, their age is actually similar. so let's say the 30yr old
pua has long term coaching. he finally figures it out by 40. by this time, he doesnt have much to choose from. much like the guy who enters a bufet at 1:30pm