I've never met a normal person without mental illness who thinks its a good idea to run up on women on the street and try to get dates. the vast majority of normal men can meet women through friendship circles, work, or school. PUA dosnt work because people look for familiarity. And what you say makes no sense. Why would a beautiful woman want to date a random guy off the street (with mental illness) when shes got tons of guys who shes familiar with trying to ask her out on a regular basis? You can get out your comfort zone, and try to take all you want, but at the end of the day, you're not going to get much results. At least none of the pua i know have ever gotten anywhere with anyone. Some of them get phone numbers, but none of them get calls back. The mentally ill are the ones who have to do pick up because any women who know the pua from their daily lives are aware of the pua's flaws and wouldnt consider dating them, so the guys with the flaws are ones who have to do pick up because if you try to approach random women on the street then they wont know your flaws, whereas people who actually know these pua (coworkers, classmates, neighors) wont be attracted to them. either way you cant win cause the vast majority of women are looking for someone with a track record, not a random mofo off the street. and if u a dude thats willing to date someone off the street just cause shes beautiful then u just straight desprate for a reason.

i went to school with a woman named debi. i was attracted to her, she wasnt attracted to me. i tried to talk to her, she wasnt have it. 3yrs go by, and i run into her again, but this time, it was through mutual friends. on that very same night, i wasnt even trying too hard because i figured she wasnt intersted, so why bother. as a surprise to me, she asked me to massage her. so, there you can see what time can do for you, and also what mutual friends can do. what changed? at that point i wasnt a stranger. she had met me before, and we had mutual friends. i was the same guy i was 3yrs ago, yet, 3 yrs ago, she had no interest in even talking to me.

every pua ive ever seen on the street is just straight awkward. and you can kind of see these guys walking away looking all defeated cause he got shot down. And here's the deal, if you a man with a decent personality, women will come to you. Heck, I've even had women come to me. Therefore, you wouldn't have to go out on the street stalking women. It's mainly guys with personality flaws (ie guys who refer to women as biches) who have difficulty attracting women. If women arent attracted to you at the work place, at school, at church, at the gym, then what in the world makes you think women off the street would be attracted to you? Even if you are somehow able to hoodwink her on the street, what makes you think you''ll ever get a call back, or a second date if you are somehow able to trick her into a first date? I don't know how you get down, but the pua i know are all guys with depresion, autism, anxiety, and depresion. none of them have any friends from work, or school, mainly due to personality flaws. these guys have had a failed dating life throughout their teens, and only turned to pick up later in life out of desperation. They usually set out specific dates to run up on women, ie monday, tuesday, thursday from 1-2, or from 5-6. theyd pick a spot, ie a park, and then just run up on every single attractive woman theyd see. they used a car salesman approach to try to sell themselves. many of them had scripted lines, and their conversations were rarely organic. they would almost never look for any eye contact or body language, and usually catch the women off guard. some of the pua will talk to these women for as long as 10 minutes. some of them get phone numbers. in fact, 1 guy, joe, gets a lot of phone numbers, but never any calls back. the women usually seem interested in the moment but eventually lose interest. one of his problems is that he is from a working class background but is focused on white women from upper class backgrounds. needless to say, the lifestyle is not a match for him. he has very little in common with the women he approaches.

it would be smart if the pua would approach women they saw regularly, ie, they take the same train each day, but none of the pua i know are smart like that. they dont know how to take advantage of those sorts of opportunities. instead they take the difficult route of approaching random women theyve never seen before at a park.

most of the pua i know have very little to offer. they have no connections. dont really attend any events. dont know where the parties are. dont have a lot of money. and its fine if you have no money and want to date other women with no money, but the problem with alot of pua is that they had no money yet wanted to date women who were used to spending alot of money, and that simply wasnt a match. i mean here you had men who rarely ever left their own city who was trying to get with women who traveled the world.

alot of these pua thought they were men of "high value" simply cause they were "working on themselves". but it doesnt take a genius to figure out that a woman would probably want to go for something that was never broken in the first place, rather than get something that was broke, and in the process of being fixed. lifes too short to go for some depresed autistic guy who is going to therapy. woman want guys who are alfa males, not men pretending to be.

" it's very difficult for someone to overcome his ego and to talk to unknown women. " thats why the vast majority of men talk to KNOWN women. and thats why the vast majority couples are formed with people who knew each other, either from school, work, or mutuals. rarely do you meet couples who met via pua. ive never met a couple who met that route.

you can step out of your comfort zone all you want but as long as the woman doesnt want to step out of hers, you will be single for a long time

lifes about building relationships, not pulling them out of thin air. problem with pua is they want shortcuts, and unfortunately in this world, they dont happen very often. even for normal, mentally healthy men, it could take them months to build up enough trust for a woman to be interested in him and thats provided they have something in common, or common friend groups. now here you have mentally ill pua, whos read a few pua books, who think they can somehow talk a random woman off the street into becoming interested in 5 minutes. you do realize how unrealistic that sounds?

even when im out and about, the only people i really see talking to other strangers for no reason are the mentally ill. normal people simply dont go up to other people and talk to them for no reason. and even when people do talk, the other party is unlikely to reciprocate. i also know guys who will talk to random people (both men and women) for no reason, and they are low quality guys with very little to offer. some are decent guys but their mental illness gets in the way. alot of the guys i run into who talk to me for no reason are conspiracy theorists. some are religious guys trying to convert you. and others are scammers. so these are really the types of guys who just try to talk to you without knowing you. i mean i really like to compare pua to those guys who come up to you in a parking lot offering to fix your car.

picking up random women on the streets is also disadvantage to the man, because you dont know this woman, or her flaws. thats why the normal way of doing things is to ask out women you already know. as i said, it can be a woman you see regularly on the train, but at least you know she has some kind of track record of being benevolent, before you ask her out. whereas if you do it off the street then you are going into the unknown, which is why its my theory that its primarily losers who are appraoching women off the street.

to put it simply, pick up is not natural. for the most part, 2 people dont just talk and then become friends off the street. almost every single friend ive had is a result of someone who i had seen a number of times. so i know them from somewhere, whether its my landlord, neighbor, someones who helped me with something, friend of a friend, someone i met at a party (mutual friend). they almost always start off with a hi first, and then after that, you open up more and more with each encounter. for the most part, people dont open up immediately, whether it's male or female. what pick up is essentially doing is forcing an interaction that usually takes months to build up, and try to condense it into 5 minutes which generally doesnt work. furthermore, pick up is encouraging you to go after "beautiful" women, who are even harder to deal with than your ordinary person, making the success rates of pick up very low. if youre actively looking for body language, then the average man can probably encounter mutual attraction perhaps once a month if you live in a big city, much lower if you live in a small city. and thats just physical attraction. two people can physically be attracted to each other, but their personalities may not be compatible. which brings down your mutual attraction possibility down to twice a year. i actually get a lot of alt females interested in me, but im not alt.

pua are not reading any body language and just going up to women regardless of whether theyre interested which brings the success rate down to 0. the main problem with pua is that they look at pick up like its a job. they set aside specific times to do pick up. so if they set out to do pick up on thursday from 1-2, they dont say anything to women before 1, or after 2, but a woman who may be interested in you may pass you at 3, then the pua usually does nothing because its outside of his pick up schedule, which is really stupid. no woman who was interested in me has ever shown up when i expected. i knew a pua who took public transport regularly, and each ride was an hour. now if he was smart, he wouldve been able to approach many women on his ride, but he has never done so. why? because hes stupid. instead, he chooses to go to a park (filled with pua) at set times and approach random women who have shown no interest. certainly it doesnt help that he has low self esteem, anxiety, depresion, and autism. its mostly stupid guys who do pick up, because the smart ones wouldnt have to. he can simply know signs to look for, and then approach women who seem interested. and certainly take advantage of opportunities such as not only public transport trips, but also visits to the gym. i know a couple of pua who go to gyms, and never did a single approach at the gym. instead they choose to approach random women on the street who have nothing in common with them. needless to say, they dont do very well. when i took public transport, id usually see at least one woman who looked interested in me per month, and i wouldnt need any gimicks because she was already interested.