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flows101 21-08-2011 04:15 PM

Doing what ever you want on a seriously deep, deep level
 
Going out 3/5 nights a week and listing to Eckert Tolle & similar types author’s and a tone of RSD/Juggler has led me to believe that this GAME is truly played on an internal level a lot of people might say yeah we know that already but there’s a difference between knowing and truly UNDERSTANDING AND PRACTICING.

To begin with, when I started going out again I would set myself targets (which is by all means a good starting point) for example attempt to Kclose x amount of girls or attempt to number close x amount of girls but I was doing all of it under the umbrella of “I want women’s APPROVAL” the biggest side effect of this frame of thinking is that you run out of things to say and you do not ESCALATE or show any SEXUAL INTENET as you fear losing the girl.

Only the other night did I realise how TRULY RIDICULOUS it is to run out of things to say, I understand now that you can only run out things to say if you CARE about what she will think of what you have to say.

If on a deep, deep level you don’t CARE about what she will think of what you have to say and do the first thing that comes to your head even if it’s not to her approval, there will almost like a 0.01 second delay to the thought then the action.

What usually happens when looking for approval, is that you have the thought or feeling (if your very present you will hear it or feel it and be aware of it) in your head or body then you reassess it but the funny thing is the pure original thought or feeling is sometimes the BEST ONE and is a true reflection of what you truly WANT.

Example:

1st thought: wow she is hot I would love to meet her
2nd thought: but she’s with all those guys one might be her BF
3rd thought: I don’t want to any trouble tonight so I‘ll leave it

Now if you act on the 1st thought before the others materialise the instruction wheel in your head is only 0.2 seconds long but by the time you get to the girl your mind would of subconsciously shifted through everything you EVER read about PU and almost out of thin air you say the right thing or what you BELIEVE to be the right thing at that time but because YOU believe it she believes it.

You get into you head when you start REASSESSING thoughts instead of acting on the original thought that was generated by present awareness.

Now please take in to consideration my thought loops are becoming more in line with my self-improvement goals so the 1st thought I have is usually the one I should act on but if your still a AFC it might be that the 2nd or even 3rd thought is the one you need to act on the 1st thought is usually the one that fits most in line with your realty at any given time.

Also I’m at a place where I can hear my thoughts within the present moment but not associate with them so the thought is there but I decide whether or not to act on it so basically I am not attached to the thought, but I still slip in and out of this state, I assume it’ll get better with time.

Back to the topic at hand, I’ve come to the conclusion that by me acting, saying and doing what I want, acting on my own intentions which is fun and sex, enjoying myself when I go out and understanding that ALL THINGS WILL COME TO AN END at some point and that the world is truly a VERY LIGHT PLACE, and that on the level of FORM nothing is a big deal.

Lovefish 25-08-2011 05:05 PM

Great post flows.Where im at is im trying to stay out of my head and trying not to over think things (as i invariably do).I always seem to have the constant pounding in my head of how do i make her like me and how do i get her to see i like her.
Rather than just forget it and do what i want ,do the first thing in your head no matter how stupid she may think it is:)
Is that essentially what being in state is??
I also need to be going out more ive not been out much lately as ive been crazy busy,so more foot work equals more results right!

Phil 25-08-2011 05:32 PM

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Originally Posted by flows101 (Post 54378)
Going out 3/5 nights a week

out of curiousity, why do u go out so often? is it sarging?

flows101 26-08-2011 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 54627)
out of curiousity, why do u go out so often? is it sarging?

Well I work 9 hours a day, so I go out to blow off steam more then anything and also I generally ENJOY learning to pick up girls and manipulating social situations and meeting new people. :D

Some people like to sit at home after a hard day at work and watch CSI or build model ships, I like to go out and play with social dynamics. :)

Phil 26-08-2011 10:53 PM

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Originally Posted by flows101 (Post 54671)
Well I work 9 hours a day, so I go out to blow off steam more then anything and also I generally ENJOY learning to pick up girls and manipulating social situations and meeting new people. :D

Some people like to sit at home after a hard day at work and watch CSI or build model ships, I like to go out and play with social dynamics. :)

for me, i dont ever go out sarging (very rare)... i just live life and get girls as i go.

going out purely for women is counter productive. if i go out on a night out, i know ill get numbers... coz its just part of my life.

people need to get out of the mindset of making life about women rather than women part of life

flows101 27-08-2011 11:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 54676)
for me, i dont ever go out sarging (very rare)... i just live life and get girls as i go.

going out purely for women is counter productive. if i go out on a night out, i know ill get numbers... coz its just part of my life.

people need to get out of the mindset of making life about women rather than women part of life

I enjoy going out allot, playing with social dynamics and I fucking LOVE doing COLD APPROACHES in general it's my glorified hobby. :D

But yo kid each to their own, if what your doing works for you then by all mean's keep it up mate.

You keep doing your thing and I'll keep doing my thing. :D

P.S. If I was only going out purely for women I would of stopped a long, long time ago. ;)

dan300 30-08-2011 10:49 PM

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Originally Posted by Phil (Post 54676)
for me, i dont ever go out sarging (very rare)... i just live life and get girls as i go.

going out purely for women is counter productive. if i go out on a night out, i know ill get numbers... coz its just part of my life.

people need to get out of the mindset of making life about women rather than women part of life

Phil, you speak like its all natural to you.

But, was it always this way? Or did you start off doing the PUA thing that everyone here is doing??

flows101 11-09-2011 02:20 PM

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Originally Posted by kowalski (Post 55077)
All the stuff about hearing your thoughts in the present moment, is stuff that has always happened you are just identifying it according to a new schema so it seems like something different.


This is a very confused thread, Flows. You talk about doing what you want and then about manipulation of social situations and playing with social dynamics. It can't be both.

Are you meaning that you are in a transition period where you are realising that doing-what-you-want is the way forwards but that belief has not fully developed yet so you still have one psychological foot in the manipulate-social-dynamics camp?


Peace,

kowalski

Yes your are right I have not yet fully internalized doing what-i-want so from time to time I drift in and out of manipulating-social-dynamics and just doing what-i-want.

For example:

Sometimes I see a hot girl and I just roll up and open with "hi my names Tai" with 100% belief and it fucking blows wide open.

Then other times I see a hot girl and I don't have that 100% belief so I PLAN the approach like "OK am goner walk up open the ugly one neg the hot one blah blah blah" when really what I WANT is to roll up and just open the HOT one right of the bat by just introducing myself.

Phil 11-09-2011 03:34 PM

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Originally Posted by dan300 (Post 54892)
Phil, you speak like its all natural to you.

But, was it always this way? Or did you start off doing the PUA thing that everyone here is doing??

i could always fuck girls, but like u guys i felt like it was a game of cat and mouse. and if you have seen tom & jerry... being tom is no fun.

there is an episode where tom stops chasing... and tom becomes curious.

i realised that :

i dont need sex, i dont need women, i dont care about anyone elses opinion, if i get blown out and dwell on it, the only person thinking about it 5 or 10 or 15 mins onward is me

coz beleive it or not, nobody gives a shit about u 5 mins after the event. dwelling on moments and how u could have changed them, & how people are now laffin at u for being rejected

NEWSFLASH. nobody remembers.

think of a time u approached a girl, and she completely fucked u off... now if someone asked you about it u remember it IN FULL

ask her she will be like ... erm WA??? dont remember

coz negetive things that happen to you and their influence on life only has influece on yours, and how it does so is based on perception.

U NEED TO UNDERSTAND THAT THE SHIT THAT CONCERNS U DOESNT CONCERN ANYONE ELSE, THEY DONT CARE

so you gettin told NO FUCK OFF, will damage u forever, and tomorow will be old forgotten news by her.

2 completely diff outcomes from one event

YOUR LIFE AND WORRIES BEYOND YOUR MIND R NOT REAL!!!

get the above and u will start doin better

THE JACKAL J000 28-09-2011 12:21 PM

Phil doesn't even sarge and goes on dating websites.
If you are having problems join the Jackals


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