Direct vs Indirect
 

Which is the best method direct or indirect? Is it possible to blend the two styles? I actually enjoy talking to women about things that have nothing to do with sex and having a good laugh with them, so I'm going to use routines like the cube, which I find great fun and I also make friends out of it. I tend to use riddles and jokes and even use the "how many nines from one to a hundred?" as an opener. I have had fantastic responses doing this and I actually enjoy myself at the same time.

Okay, sex is the goal but it's not all about sex, surely? There is also the thrill of the chase and watching all these little social interactions fall into place. I do use kino from the word go and I constantly escalate, so it naturally gets sexual. But I just don't know how comfortable I would be walking up to "every" bird and letting her know I want to bone her then and there. I think there's definitely a time and a place for doing this though. What do you think? Should we be using our brains or going in like cavemen?

Yeah, I see what you mean. Sometimes it's fun to go direct too. Surely it depends on the type of girl though? Naughty girls are going to respond to overt sexuality much better I would have thought. I quite fancy an English student of mine who has no vices and goes to church every Sunday but she is hot! I would have thought a direct approach would make her run a mile. I have been dating another girl for about three weeks now and although we make out a lot and I've had her boob in my mouth and hand up her skirt. I can't get past the LMR. I've tried everything, acting cool, freeze outs and finally expressly telling her, "Hey I really enjoy hanging out with you, but I'm not going to lie to you, I want to have sex with you MANY times." She did seem to enjoy this at the time but it didn't end in sex. I sent her a text saying, "I'm going to make love to you till the sun comes up. Come to my house." She has not responded. Perhaps I have fucked up my chances of ever seeing her again. I will keep you posted. There is one snag with her: She lives with a guy that she is kind of seeing but they are not an "official" couple. As far as the chasing dynamic goes it is often her that calls me to come and hang out but after the message I just sent, it remains to be seen.

They both good! Depends on the situation!

Anyone who says different is a silly little PUA with a pointless point to prove!

I don't think it matters. How do you know what type of girl it is when you haven't opened her yet?

I agree with snake. It should depend on whatever you feel like doing at that time.

IMO if you're in a high-energy high-confidence mood..... direct comes into play as an option

I don't think direct works when you're in a lower-energy more... introspective... mood

Clever shit would be to control your mood to quickly "force" you into that high-energy high-confidence mood for direct sexual talk even when you are in a lower-energy introspective mood

that sounds a bit off then, pursuing someone who has a live-in partner... :( if she can't stand him, and there's not crappy co-ownership over the property, then she would have moved out! Surely?

Don't be her toy that she can call up any time for some fun.

Direct vs Indirect. Use both. Don't think about it. You gotta judge when either is appropriate though!

Yeah, but dude, I want her to call me up for some fun. That's the whole point. I don't always say yes though. Sometimes I tell her I'm busy doing something else. She did not respond to my direct message so then (on the advice of a 19 year old hb9 female friend) I sent her another message which said "Sorry but I couldn't stop thinking about you. You can't blame me for wanting to be with you. I hope I didn't go too far". Maybe that's gay as fuck but she responded, "Anyways u got the point of my not answering yesterday and in addition i'm a bit ill :( as soon as i get better though we go out for an exotic dinner ok?"
Sometimes the game can fuck up your game. One of my best friends was into this girl, his tactic was just to ask her if she had a bf and keep telling her how beautiful she was and that he was crazy about her. He's now married to her.

They started out as flat mates. They didn't move in together. Then shit happened. They are not gf&bf though. But he is my obstacle.

Interesting. Keep us posted, I'd like to know how things progress. :)

This is so true. I number closed a stunning girl on last week. We were quite happy texting and she seemed real keen.

She added me on FB and I sent her a text saying 'I see you added me, you've got some smoking hot photos on there (name). How's things with blah blah?' No reply....

In my confused knowledge filled little head I felt like I was been all confident and direct like I keep reading everywhere, but in reality I think my text indicated I'd been perving over her photos (especially as she has a bikini one as her profile pic) which isn't very attractive to a girl....

....either that or I need to sort out my FB profile.....

.....either that or I just need to stop sending silly little texts, writing about it on the Internet and just pick up the phone and call her!!

Anyway my point is I have found quite a bit recently that when I think about 'gaming' too much, I get all insecure and paranoid about stuff which isn't good! I find my best results are just when I am relaxed and not thinking about it (obvious really, but easier said than done).

On a more positive note I really like this website as it is not very PUAish like some of the others and a lot more helpful! Thanks guys!!

Back to topic - I think people need to be careful when going direct. There is a very fine line between 'confident/knowing what you want' and being a 'sleaze bag'! On the flip side with indirect there is a fine line between 'non needy/attractive' and 'lets just be friends'. I think the key is finding an optimum balance between the two. I will soon be there!