What's your favorite Pokemon?
 

...Is my latest opener; field tested last night.
I got mixed reactions, varying from the answers:

HBMileyCyrus (to HB6): Aaah...Pikachu...just say Pikachu...

to:

HBStuckup: Fuck off we're not interested.

Haha, either "What's your favorite Pokemon" opener is a non-starter or bitch shields were set to a eleven last night. Bit of both I think. Back to the drawing board.

Wordsworth

Are u serious? why would women want to have a conversation about pokemon cards? lol back to the drawing board on that 1 just be yourself and take an interest in the women you dont need to try and invent these bullshit openers it is not cool!

I agree with the 'Italian Stallion' Casanova, the sooner you drop rubbish like this the better things will get for you. It's so contrived, most women are not stupid they see through this, their 'bullshit-o-meters' are ringing at incredible decibels when they hear things like this.

Do you genuinely give a shit what peoples favorite pokemon is? I very much doubt it therefore your opener and the conversation you build around is it not going to come across as genuine. If you are going to use some form of opinion opener then base it around something you genuinely are interested in asking and hearing about.

Plucking random 'off-the-wall' things out of the air that you think will interest people will more than likely back-fire. Women are crying out for truly genuine men, and things like this only reinforce in their minds that you like 90% of most other men can not speak to them as your true authentic self whether they like it or not.

Nobody says this is going to be easy, but the sooner you stop trying to impress people and try to steal their attention with phoney lines but instead not give a shit if they like you or not the better you will become.

STD's

Gotta catch em all!

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Thats all you need to ask.

Women are not crying out for a genuine man, there crying out for a man that excites them, makes them feel good.

Natural game is great but your getting obsessed with the idea.

Am not defending that opener, i use opinion openers and am not trying to impress anybody. There just a tool to help begin an interaction.

No one is saying to be genuine you have to be boring or not make them feel good. Also hustler didn't say don't use openers he said...

I hate all those genuine boring unexciting people I meet but I love those fake exciting people who make me feel good, who I can connect to on such a deep level because they are fake.

Seriously are you trying to say women would like a fake guy over a guy who has all his shit together and can just be himself?

its nothing to do with being fake or genuine, if the fakers/bull shitters are more exciting, she will like them more, if a guys always bull shitting, then thats genuine for him. Genuine is only how you are perceived by others.

No am not saying that. I have known a few naturals in my time, they go in direct normally, then they bull shit/lie, these girls new they were bull shitters, but most didn't care along as they were having fun. They are fakers, cheaters but they got the girls.

Am not saying thats right, you can have the charm without the bull shit, but when you talk about women being after genuine guys, thats not necessary true. There just after that attraction, Genuine or fake.

Sure they 'got the girl', sure a lay, but how long did they manage to keep up the bullshit 'act' for - hours, days, weeks? Also, is it really worth living their lives as a lie and spending their lives bullshitting and living in a stifled manner?

It's not merely about laying girls for one night Zone... not for me anyway.

Its not just about one night for me either, neither was it for those guys, once the attraction is there they will want to see you again.

I was just saying girls will see past the bull shit most of the time,but most wont give a shit as long as there having a good time.

If you master the art of charm it wont matter what you say.

Whats right and what works, arnt necessarily the same thing.

No, it's true. You can trick and lie to get a girl into bed. It's just... I'd rather not thanks.

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MINES JYNX HAHAHAHA

Bullshitting never worked for me. Birds seem to smell it a mile off. Bullshitting tends to destroy congruence and causes you to seem 'fake' and something seems 'not right'.

Not that it can't be made to work. Some high profile PUAs do just fine with made up stuff. It's just not for me.

apparently you're racist jynx Pokémon is Racist!

Don't mean to take this further off topic, but my kid sings 'baa baa black sheep'
Good stuff, but they then go on to sing 'baa baa white sheep' and 'baa baa purple sheep' so as to not cause offense. I am discusted. Making an innocent song sung by 2 year old kids into a racial issue angers me so much. I would refuse to take part in protest.

Theres different levels of bull shitting, if its not taken seriously and just done for entertainment, i dont think there anything wrong with it, but some take it to far.

The naturals i no bull shit there arses off, some for humour some for upping there status, one of em told this girl he was a fireman, 2 months down the line he had to be honest that he wasnt lol, I heard she was abit pissed, but hes still with her now 18 months later.

Stand up comics buy some of there material from comedy writers, alot of there stories and jokes arnt true, no body cares as long as there performed well.

Again am not defending lying, i started this off because i was replying to a comment someone made about women crying out for a genuine guy, which i dont think is true, they dont no what there crying out for, cause they dont control who they are attracted to.

I don't believe attraction is a conscious choice. I believe it's very much an unconscious urge, based on emotion not logic. Hence girls wondering why they always go for badboy alpha jerks, even tho they repeatedly get fucked around by them.

I probably wont read that cause i cant be arsed.

I think you can have a certain about of control of who you are attracted to, like if a guy gets his act together, that could effect his subconscious, and to a certain degree the type of women he is attracted to,and same for women.

Its not a conscious choice.

Mystery is only one of many sources i have learned from, which makes your comment ignorant.

This is a PUA Forum not a philosophy Forum.

You were slamming me for using scripted material, what about your post listing all those Scripted texts.

They were actually good,but seems a bit hypocritical.

Kowalski, are you saying you could consciously find this beauty attractive?

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The good news for comics is they only have to put up the facade for an hour on stage. You'd have to keep it up date after date after date.

FFS Nova lol

Thats not what am saying. Playful bull shitting is all am defending.

There are alot of bull shitters out there, which makes alot of women look for a honest genuine guy, but obviously not someone thats going to bore them.

For real Zone. I am in no way advocating a guy being genuinely boring and in essence making no effort to woo the girl / sweeping them off their feet. I'm about releasing that fun guy that hides behind the stifled facade society often tells us we can't show, via the stiff upper lip for example.

I love this forum. I find constant snippets of inspiration. Good shit man! My take is there is no right or wrong way. Just the right (and the wrong) way for me. Which maybe different for someone else... but I still want to hear others opinions to help me bend (and strengthen) my reality and knowledge.

People have been taking things personally on here recently. Just don't! Take in the opinions, digest it, use it if you can... even if you think it's wrong... then you at least to know where you stand in terms of a point of view. It will all help you grow!

Hold on... does this class as philosophy?!

"I set out to discover the why of it, and to transform my pleasure into knowledge"
Baudelaire

My favorite Pokemon is Mewtwo. Simply awesome!

bollocks

What's with the constant negative attitude Zone? Anything anyone has had to say that in any way challenges your reality you reject off hand and chuck back in their faces. Cheer up!!

Who said i was being negative, thats only your perception.

If people didnt run with the first thing that pops into there head, the world would be a better place.

Sure thing, it is my perception, and that's why I said it.

After all you ran with the first thing that came into your head, i.e. 'bollocks' being your reaction to monkeybuster's carefully thought response.

I actually liked monkeys response, was just getting tired of all the niceness.