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Default Seduction style in England - 06-03-2016, 10:04 PM

Hi i'm new into this forum and i'm here because i'm curious and i would like to ask you few question about the social dynamics and the seduction style in England. As so far, i'm not really understanding it. I'm italian and i'm not used to some kind of behaviour. it seems that here something is different, that i miss a piece of the puzzle so i can't logically understand what is happening, some of the behaviour.

1)WHat is the secret with the english woman? It seems that they never reply to message, why?

After a solid interaction with all the basic element of the game (comfort, rapport, attraction kino, emotion, clear IOI from them) we exchange the number, i text them and No reply or just a quick reply of 2-3 words (1 message and then she disappear)

NìIt is not clear why they do that and the game was solid. Is it because the people prefer to talk and interact between english and not with foreign?

I have tried to practice a normal chat game, but it has never gone so far (max 1-2 message). Therefore i have tried to invite them after 1 or 2 message. Same result : no reply.

From what i can see here it seems that people use a very sexually direct style in the message. (i saw a post a guy was writing to a girl i+u=69) I never do it, it is out of our mentality in italy. the girl will react badly.

It could be that? does it work this kind of style?
I know that some friend, est european girl received these kind of message from british guy and they were shocked.
WHat kind of message and style the british girl appreciate?


2) where do you normally meet the girls in real life (opening set in day game night game) or with dating app (pof tinder)?

I know a lot of people use online dating app, does it work?
i'm not an expert (i prefer the normal real game face to face), for what i saw it seemed just a wast of time (texting 100 girls, 10 replies, only 1-2 carry on for more then 5 message and then you don't meet anyone..)!

thanks for your advise!
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Default 11-03-2016, 09:32 PM

LOL, looks like you have now learned about the stage of Flaking. This has nothing to do with England or whatever part of the world. It's simply a reality of cold approach.

While your approach might be solid, there is a natural rebound effect when those good emotions of your interaction wear off. And builds her own internal resistance to continuing an interaction with you. Such as thinking are you safe? Does it mean she is easy? So this is normal.

One thing that might help with flakes is exchanging Facebook or instagram contacts. Although I'm sure getting a phone number feels more "official" and like you closed on something. But the objective is not to get numbers, but to build a connection that leads to something romantic. So its a means not an end. I mean often when you get a number, usually you just text back and forth for a bit. And most people have their facebook or instagram app loaded on the phone anyways so they get messages instantly. These days very few people make calls.

Part of the rebound effect I think that comes from cold approach, her sense of logic comes in that you are a stranger. And she doesn't know if you are a psycho killer or just some lonely loser who put up a good show for her. A facebook contact shows more familiarity about who you are and who she is. She can then see things about you that you are a regular cool guy. And who knows might even know mutual people (That can be a good or bad thing). Plus you can now do voice and video calls via facebook as well. So actually gives you more opportunity to communicate than a phone number alone.

Give that a try and see if it helps any.


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Default 12-03-2016, 06:50 PM

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I don't know if it's specific to the UK. Personally I don't send sexual stuff if we aren't already fucking.

Stop trying to get numbers for a bit... maybe forever.
Kowalski thank you for your reply. Are you doing game in Englad, where?
I don't try to get the number of the girl, i try to enjoy and get to know the girl. i'm asking why the girls never reply to text message, if they reply is just something short and brief. This happen even if the interaction is solid; it does not happen just to me and just with woman. It seems that is impossible to have a normal interaction with a british guy too, with a man, with colleague from work or people that do sport with you. And this happen to a lot of people not british that i know.

I am interested in knowing the social dynamics in England, so what is the point, why the people do that: are they shallow, they prefer to interact only with british ?

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I don't know how you are touching girls but if you are touching them right then you'll know which ones will kiss you etc. So kiss them, then stay with them and keep getting to know them and their mates until you end up in bed together or your groups go their separate ways. Just exchange details with girls when you have to part.
I don't understand what are you saying.
You go out, you know a girl, you like her, you and her enjoy the interactions, so things go well and you kiss her. Perfect. This if you can take the interaction from the approach to the closure in few hours, during the same day.

If not, you have to exchange the number with her and text her and organising a date later on. So is my main question, why they don't reply (even if the interaction was solid)?
What are you suggesting, i am not following you: how do you stay with them, kiss them, get to know them if they never reply and you don't see them again?


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LOL, looks like you have now learned about the stage of Flaking. This has nothing to do with England or whatever part of the world. It's simply a reality of cold approach.

While your approach might be solid, there is a natural rebound effect when those good emotions of your interaction wear off. And builds her own internal resistance to continuing an interaction with you. Such as thinking are you safe? Does it mean she is easy? So this is normal.
Thank you astroboy. I know what is a flake. And i can recognise it. I know when an interaction is solid and where it will go nowhere. I can accept flake, but they can't be all flakes. and why this behaviour happen even with the men then?

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One thing that might help with flakes is exchanging Facebook or instagram contacts. Although I'm sure getting a phone number feels more "official" and like you closed on something. But the objective is not to get numbers, but to build a connection that leads to something romantic. So its a means not an end. I mean often when you get a number, usually you just text back and forth for a bit. And most people have their facebook or instagram app loaded on the phone anyways so they get messages instantly. These days very few people make calls.
I agree the objective is build a connection that can leads to something. I have never said the goal is getting the number.
I tried both with number or facebook. When i talk about texting, i mean with number (whatsapp) or facebook. And i don't notice any difference.

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Part of the rebound effect I think that comes from cold approach, her sense of logic comes in that you are a stranger. And she doesn't know if you are a psycho killer or just some lonely loser who put up a good show for her. A facebook contact shows more familiarity about who you are and who she is. She can then see things about you that you are a regular cool guy. And who knows might even know mutual people (That can be a good or bad thing). Plus you can now do voice and video calls via facebook as well. So actually gives you more opportunity to communicate than a phone number alone.

Give that a try and see if it helps any.
i agree and i already use facebook. I communicate with text, pics and emoticons.
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Default 18-03-2016, 12:36 PM

Dear kowalski,
i don't understand the point of your post: did you read what i wrote, did you understand?

I quote myself :
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I don't try to get the number of the girl, i try to enjoy and get to know the girl. i'm asking why the girls never reply to text message, if they reply is just something short and brief. This happen even if the interaction is solid; it does not happen just to me and just with woman. It seems that is impossible to have a normal interaction with a british guy too, with a man, with colleague from work or people that do sport with you. And this happen to a lot of people not british that i know.

So what is the point of your post: you are giving no contribution. I don't have time to waste and i'm not here to argue with you. I was trying to understand the social dynimics in Uk. At least astroboy tried to say something: the flake and the rebound effect.

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Furthermore, I'll gamble that (and am unlikely to believe any denial) - You are asking for the number before you really have to part.
. Ok carry on with your gamble...wizard

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If you must ask girls for their number, it should be an afterthought when her friends are dragging her away - Hey, wait! Wait! Give me your number.
Oh my god, this sound so needy and desperate

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Also, probs. not best to suggest English are shallow whilst asking English people to help you. Look up some stats on multiculturalism before saying ignorant stuff like - English stick to their own. Lol. If you want to talk about a nation with a racism issue, take a long hard look at your home nation first. Or the one I'm in now!
. AGAIN, try to read and understand:

quote myself
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Is it because the people prefer to talk and interact between english and not with foreign?
I said prefer and it is a question!!! Is it difficoult?

I Never said a "nation with a racism issue".
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Default 29-05-2016, 06:49 PM

Some good advice in this thread. Unfortunately, British girls tend to fall into one of two caterogies: 1) Uptight/up their own asses; 2) Bimbos. This can make technical/text based communication a little tricky, particularly if you don't have anything in particular in common

As the others have suggested, I'd stick to escalating in set e.g. instant date @ daygame or physical escalation @ night game, and also consider swapping social media details instead of phone numbers
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Default 23-06-2016, 08:21 AM

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You chat shit, dickhead.


Peace,

kowalski
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Generalities are strong in this one. That's what happen when you don't speak from experience.

Don't approach English girls, they are up their ass.
Don't approach French girls, they are uptight.
Don't approach Latinas, they like black guys.
Don't approach Asians, they are too shy.
Don't approach Europeans, they are trashy.
etc.

You might aswell become gay don't you think ?
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